# Afroman punches woman on stage **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 18, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034 "2015-02-18T20:44:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/41 "2015-02-19T00:02:01Z")
If I was on stage (female speaking here) and a man sidled up behind me and started touching my nether region, I’d probably hit him. I’m not proud of that, and I hope I’d yell at him first, but chances are I’d reflexively hit the dude. I might even hit him really hard and then try to get back to the mic before I missed a beat. He is a performer, and it looked to me like he had no back-up. No security, no band, no nothin’ but him to make it a show. Granted, he could have yelled at her first in the hope that it would scare her off, but in all fairness, she was sexually assaulting him. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/42 "2015-02-19T00:30:57Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > He also has [“Colt 45 and tw0 Zig Zags”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNtiEcT9W6M) which is every bit as good as “Because I got High”. That bad, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/43 "2015-02-19T01:01:36Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > That bad, huh? If you want to phrase it that way, sure, it’s every bit as “bad” as “Because I got High”. But in the Rap world, doesn’t “Bad” mean good? ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/44 "2015-02-19T01:16:24Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > If you want to phrase it that way, sure, it’s every bit as “bad” as “Because I got High”. > But in the Rap world, doesn’t “Bad” mean good? and good is about as bad as you can possibly get! ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/45 "2015-02-19T01:17:34Z")
He had no idea who or what he was hitting. Watch the video. He started swinging as soon as he got bumped from behind. If it happened to be a man no one would think twice. He gets a pass. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/46 "2015-02-19T01:25:55Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > If I was on stage (female speaking here) and a man sidled up behind me and started touching my nether region, I’d probably hit him. I’m not proud of that, and I hope I’d yell at him first, but chances are I’d reflexively hit the dude. I might even hit him really hard and then try to get back to the mic before I missed a beat. He is a performer, and it looked to me like he had no back-up. No security, no band, no nothin’ but him to make it a show. > > Granted, he could have yelled at her first in the hope that it would scare her off, but in all fairness, she was sexually assaulting him. There are a few things that any normal person would do before belting another person in the head: 1. Shake your head in the “no, don’t do that fashion.” 2. Actually say “please don’t do that.” 3. Move to the other side of the stage. 4. Ask security to remove her from the stage. 5. Stop playing guitar and ask her to leave the stage. The list goes on. Well-adjusted adults don’t really do things like punching another person in the head unprovoked. And that wasn’t sexual assault. She was obviously feeling no pain and was trying to have a good time. And when on Earth did we all start using the verb “sidled?” I’ve never used this before in my life. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/47 "2015-02-19T01:28:16Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > He had no idea who or what he was hitting. > > Watch the video. He started swinging as soon as he got bumped from behind. > > If it happened to be a man no one would think twice. > > He gets a pass. Did you miss the first 3 seconds of the video? ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/48 "2015-02-19T01:32:17Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > . . . > > Well-adjusted adults don’t really do things like punching another person in the head unprovoked. > . . . Well, I never claimed to be well-adjusted! 😉 > [@Leaffan](#): > > . . . > > And that wasn’t sexual assault. She was obviously feeling no pain and was trying to have a good time. > . . . Not sure I agree with you there. I think if a man had done it to a female performer that’s exactly what he’d be charged with. Or at least it’s what the media would call it. > [@Leaffan](#): > > . . . > > And when on Earth did we all start using the verb “sidled?” I’ve never used this before in my life. > > . . . Lol! But that’s clearly what she’s doing! She doesn’t walk up to him, she just sort of sidles over. (I think you’d like the word better if you heard it with a Virginia accent.) Seriously though, I don’t mean to defend the punch. But I think it’s more understandable than most people are saying. ---
**Author:** ![Gerald\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Gerald\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gerald_II)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/49 "2015-02-19T01:40:28Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I can believe the claim that he wasn’t aware whether it was a man or a woman, so I don’t really think this is a “violence against women” issue. Other than that, though… WTF, man? But it doesn’t make a difference. > [@TruCelt](#): > > If I was on stage (female speaking here) and a man sidled up behind me and started touching my nether region, I’d probably hit him. > Granted, he could have yelled at her first in the hope that it would scare her off, but in all fairness, she was sexually assaulting him. Good point. However, in the article I read where he apologizes for the punch/slap, nowhere does he say he felt threatened or that he felt he was being sexually assaulted. > [@Stringbean](#): > > He had no idea who or what he was hitting. > > Watch the video. He started swinging as soon as he got bumped from behind. > > If it happened to be a man no one would think twice. > > He gets a pass. His representatives said he didn’t know whether it was a man or a woman but Afroman himself says, \*"‘These girls got on stage and I asked them to leave and I tried to keep rapping.’ \* [link](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2957969/Afroman-arrest-punching-female-fan-got-onstage-free-concert-Mississippi.html) No pass from me. He should have let his security handle it. He hit someone and could have seriously hurt them and went right back to playing. Even IF I had felt threatened enough to punch someone, once I saw the person fall like that I’d like to think I would stop and make sure they weren’t seriously injured, or what exactly the situation was. He kept on playing. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/50 "2015-02-19T01:59:29Z")
I definitely did NOT notice him acknowledge the girl in the very beginning of the video. He WAYYYY over-reacted. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/51 "2015-02-19T02:04:46Z")
> [@Nancarrow](#): > > I hope an incident like this doesn’t tarnish rap music’s sterling record regarding misogynistic violence. You hear rap music somewhere in that video? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/52 "2015-02-19T02:09:56Z")
in your dreams: you’re Courtney Cox in the _Dancing in the Dark_ video. [in real life](http://youtu.be/KyK0y02HvVc) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/53 "2015-02-19T02:11:14Z")
> [@Gerald\_II](#): > > [link](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2957969/Afroman-arrest-punching-female-fan-got-onstage-free-concert-Mississippi.html) That link has the punch from a different angle, and it looks like things could have been a lot worse if she cracked her head open on the corner of the riser right behind her. Yipes. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/54 "2015-02-19T02:55:57Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes, you’ve just exactly described why what you said was racist. You saw the word Afro, and decided to insult the guy by calling his hair nappy. The word nappy is a negative term to refer to unkempt, unmaintained hair, and has been commonly used as a derogatory term against black people. > > You cannot claim to not know this, as we had this discussion when Don Imus used “nappy-headed hos.” In fact, I’m pretty sure you were directly referencing that comment, since it’s not like you normally use the word “nappy.” What you miss is that it was my INTENT to be insulting to him. Didn’t you get that from the rest of my post? He punched a girl in the face. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/55 "2015-02-19T03:11:23Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > What you miss is that it was my INTENT to be insulting to him. Didn’t you get that from the rest of my post? He punched a girl in the face. Fuck him. You really are too dumb for words. ---
**Author:** ![Gerald\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Gerald\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gerald_II)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/56 "2015-02-19T03:13:28Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > You hear rap music somewhere in that video? The genre of music he performs is listed as hip-hop. [Afromman-East Palmdale](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWhozpLmXps&list=PLA72181BE31D36732&index=15)- Sounds like rap to me. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/57 "2015-02-19T03:21:53Z")
nm . ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/58 "2015-02-19T03:33:47Z")
When Keith Richards guitar beats a dude on stage, then it’s just [rock n roll](http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=keith+richards+video+punch+guy+on+stage&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=8EC213E34143DA09D1898EC213E34143DA09D189) instead of rap? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/59 "2015-02-19T03:34:22Z")
All I can think of is the punch line to a stupid joke:\* I don’t show up at your job and slap the dick out of your mouth!\* ---
**Author:** ![Gerald\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Gerald\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gerald_II)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/60 "2015-02-19T03:49:21Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > When Keith Richards guitar beats a dude on stage, then it’s just [rock n roll](http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=keith+richards+video+punch+guy+on+stage&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=8EC213E34143DA09D1898EC213E34143DA09D189) instead of rap? I didn’t grow up during that era of rock n roll. Did it have a reputation for an abundance of subject matter involving misandry or violence towards men? [Afroman-“Bitch, Bitch”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh36cZC-BMg) [Afroman-"Fuck you bitch, Goodbye](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalwtUi_KA4) “I never met a punk bitch like you/ I want to beat you black and blue” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034.md?page=4)