# Afroman punches woman on stage

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 18, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034 "2015-02-18T20:44:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/161 "2015-02-20T20:45:23Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Ooh, [subtle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golliwog)…

Okay, you’ve got to be joking with that one, right?

Right?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/162 "2015-02-20T20:48:39Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Get help.

Oh, I didn’t mean to put you in a dark mood. Lighten up, Francis.

The only people who _could_ help me are the mods, and they’ve already said they’re not interested. So here we are, me and my little … circle … of racist friends.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/163 "2015-02-20T20:50:24Z")

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My post #144 seems to have been skipped in favor of juvenile sniping (not that there’s anything wrong with juvenile sniping :)). Here it is again:

The fact that “nappy” is derogatory is the problem – we shouldn’t be using derogatory words that denigrate the natural features of a huge group of people. “Nappy” denigrates natural black hair (and probably some small number of non-black people’s hair, but it’s mostly about afro-textured hair). Just like “darkie” denigrates dark skin, “nappy” denigrates black hair. It’s not the end of the world, but I don’t think we should use terms with such an ugly history.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/164 "2015-02-20T20:50:38Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Okay, you’ve got to be joking with that one, right?

A little from column A, a little from column B.

But ask yourself, how often does **mags** use “golly” as an expression? Just _co-inky-dink_ that the last time was … during a [discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17210205&highlight=golly) about the “tarbaby” dogwhistle by **F-P**?

I’m sure he got a k-k-kick out of that one.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/165 "2015-02-20T20:52:56Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Okay, you’ve got to be joking with that one, right?
> 
> Right?

I don’t think magellan is capable of that degree of subtlety. Right?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/166 "2015-02-20T20:56:18Z")

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[QUOTE=iiandyiiii]  
The fact that “nappy” is derogatory is the problem – we shouldn’t be using derogatory words that denigrate the natural features of a huge group of people.  
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Don’t you mean we shouldn’t be using derogatory words that de-African American-ate the natural features of a huge group of people?

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Whatever you say, Massah.

Now you’re talking!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/167 "2015-02-20T21:00:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Now you’re talking!

Like a dream come true for you, no doubt.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/168 "2015-02-20T21:03:54Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Don’t you mean we shouldn’t be using derogatory words that de-African American-ate the natural features of a huge group of people?  
> Now you’re talking!
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

??? No idea.

EDIT: I get it. Denigrate.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/169 "2015-02-20T21:06:04Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> ??? No idea.

**Shodan** ’s mad he doesn’t get to say nigger without being blackballed…

…although he might be into that, if his eagerness to be called Massah is anything to go by.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/170 "2015-02-20T21:32:42Z")

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Kinda ironic that a thread about a punch has turned into a sissy slap fight.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/171 "2015-02-20T21:35:16Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Kinda ironic that a thread about a punch has turned into a sissy slap fight.

Homophobe.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/172 "2015-02-20T21:41:48Z")

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[Afroman body slams fan off the stage.](https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1154621764560881&video_source=pages_finch_main_video)

I completely take back my comments above. This guy is violent and dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/173 "2015-02-20T21:59:17Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> **Shodan** ’s mad he doesn’t get to say nigger without being blackballed…

African-American-balled, ya racist.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/174 "2015-02-20T22:19:03Z")

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I think **Shodan** is trying to make some sort of joke about accusations of racism, but I can’t figure out what it is.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/175 "2015-02-20T22:38:43Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think **Shodan** is trying to make some sort of joke about accusations of racism, but I can’t figure out what it is.

It’s a comment on the absurdity of the “dog-whistle” claim.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/176 "2015-02-20T23:49:30Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> A little from column A, a little from column B.
> 
> But ask yourself, how often does **mags** use “golly” as an expression? Just _co-inky-dink_ that the last time was … during a [discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17210205&highlight=golly) about the “tarbaby” dogwhistle by **F-P**?
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> I’m sure he got a k-k-kick out of that one.

You pure dumb fuck. “Golly” and “Golly Gee Wilikers” are used to feign pie-eyed amazement. It was a popular phrase on shows like Mayberry RFD, Leave it to Beaver, Dennis the Menace, Gomer Pyle, etc.—super-wholesome shows. It has not even a tinge of racism as people used it. Today it it used with more than a hint of sarcasm, communicating that the person on the other end of it is profoundly and impressively dumb and/or fucked in the head. It still has no racism attached to it, as Miller tried to hint to you.

Except in your diseased, look-out-there-are-racists-evrerywhere, mind. Perhaps someone from the states here who you might listen to will explain that to your dumb ass.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/177 "2015-02-20T23:52:19Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Homophobe.

Ha! 😃

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/178 "2015-02-21T00:00:58Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> My post #144 seems to have been skipped in favor of juvenile sniping (not that there’s anything wrong with juvenile sniping :)). Here it is again:
> 
> The fact that “nappy” is derogatory is the problem – we shouldn’t be using derogatory words that denigrate the natural features of a huge group of people. “Nappy” denigrates natural black hair (and probably some small number of non-black people’s hair, but it’s mostly about afro-textured hair). Just like “darkie” denigrates dark skin, “nappy” denigrates black hair. It’s not the end of the world, but I don’t think we should use terms with such an ugly history.

And the juvenile sniping continues… I guess it’s a lot easier than to actually think about words, their meanings, their history, and how people might understand them.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/179 "2015-02-21T00:30:56Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> And the juvenile sniping continues… I guess it’s a lot easier than to actually think about words, their meanings, their history, and how people might understand them.

That needs to apply to both sides though, and people need to not automatically assume that, just because there’s a _possible_ offensive or racist though behind word choice, that it’s necessarily the case.

If I say something in ignorance that’s genuinely offensive, and someone points it out to me, I’ll humbly apologise. If I say something that clearly isn’t offensive unless it’s twisted around, and someone chooses to take offence at that, fuck 'em.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/180 "2015-02-21T00:41:58Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> And the juvenile sniping continues… I guess it’s a lot easier than to actually think about words, their meanings, their history, and how people might understand them.

What point are you trying to make that hasn’t been addressed. “Nappy” is derogatory, as has already been pointed out. It’s a way to describe hair, like a bad afro. We have the douchebag Afroman knocking down a woman, I said throw his nappy ass in jail, intending to be derogatory toward him and his hair. What the fuck is so hard to understand about that?

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