# After \_many years\_ I return to SDMB to find Shodan **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 25, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964 "2020-01-25T18:40:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/1 "2020-01-25T18:40:41Z")
Engaged in _exactly the same arguments_. And exactly the same people responding. With exactly the same points. Like seriously. Y’all. Actually for real, just resolve not to reply to **Shodan**. It’s that simple. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/2 "2020-01-25T18:49:53Z")
Wish we had a “Like” button… ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/3 "2020-01-25T19:18:18Z")
Wish we had an “Eject” button… ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/4 "2020-01-25T19:49:02Z")
…and tell him, “You are my father.” ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/5 "2020-01-25T20:42:35Z")
Hey, Frylock! I can imagine how frustrating it’d be to return and find the same schtick going on. But it ain’t just **Shodan**. So many threads still get stuck in a loop of _“What about X?”_ “Here’s evidence to refute X” _“But what about X? Never thought of that, didja?”_ “Here’s different evidence to refute X” _“Well, guess your fake news sites never told you about X!”_ “Here’s a reasoned argument refuting X” _“X! Ha! You sheeple are powerless against the moral strength of the believers in X!!!”_ “Here are fifteen calmly-presented reasons, that I’ve spent an hour compiling, to show you why X isn’t logical…” _“The Dope Hive-Mind falls before the might of the True Right-Thinkers!”_ It’s like a Black Hole where logic and truth get sucked in, but we can’t stop spending our time throwing stuff in there… Well, I for one am willing to take a Do Not Feed The Hole pledge. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/6 "2020-01-25T21:23:21Z")
Regards ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/7 "2020-01-25T21:44:30Z")
Sadly, we have not been able to put together the special ops mission to parachute dirt bikes into downtown Tripoli, snatch him, and airlift him to a black site. The sad thing is, he is one of the most reasonable conservatives around these days. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/8 "2020-01-26T00:43:22Z")
How is the stand up going ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/9 "2020-01-26T00:53:05Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Engaged in _exactly the same arguments_. > > And exactly the same people responding. > > With exactly the same points. > > Like seriously. Y’all. Actually for real, just resolve not to reply to **Shodan**. It’s that simple. This. It’s always the same shit. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/10 "2020-01-26T00:56:02Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > This. It’s always the same shit. Yes, but he’s _our_ Shodan. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/11 "2020-01-26T03:36:51Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Engaged in _exactly the same arguments_. > > And exactly the same people responding. > > With exactly the same points. > > Like seriously. Y’all. Actually for real, just resolve not to reply to **Shodan**. It’s that simple. In the history of the interwebs has that approach _ever_ worked? What you request cannot be done, so think of something else. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/12 "2020-01-26T04:41:16Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > The sad thing is, he is one of the most reasonable conservatives around these days. I agree. While I generally disagree with Shodan in any debate involving political topics, I always feeling like I’m participating in a dialogue. Shodan is expressing his own opinions, understands what he’s saying, reads what other people say, and responses to other people. He’s miles ahead of some of the other conservative posters we’ve had here who don’t appear to understand their own posts and don’t read anyone else’s. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/13 "2020-01-26T06:47:16Z")
Things could be worse. I noticed a lot of people I LIked and respected. Even Shodan has his funny moments. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/14 "2020-01-26T08:06:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I agree. While I generally disagree with Shodan in any debate involving political topics, I always feeling like I’m participating in a dialogue. Shodan is expressing his own opinions, understands what he’s saying, reads what other people say, and responses to other people. He’s miles ahead of some of the other conservative posters we’ve had here who don’t appear to understand their own posts and don’t read anyone else’s. Wait, what? Shodan spouts right-wing talking points, ignores any post that proves him wrong., etc. The fact that he is the “best” that the right has to offer is a testament to how shitty the right is. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/15 "2020-01-26T10:04:52Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > In the history of the interwebs has that approach _ever_ worked? > What you request cannot be done, so think of something else. It works just fine at the individual level. I have him on ignore, and I have no complaints. I don’t feel I’ve missed anything. I just occasionally check to see if he’s still using snark as a replacement for actual argument, rather than just an adjunct. Or if he’s still acting inconsistent with his statement in 2016 about being on the anti-Trump side by attacking people for being anti-Trump. It’s not like **Frylock** said the guy would leave. Just that people should by now realize that they’re just saying the same things they said before, and that it doesn’t work. DNFTT is lousy policy for trying to actually moderate a troll. But it’s still good advice for people to stop wasting their time and getting angry about someone who won’t chance. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/16 "2020-01-26T12:13:53Z")
Yes, there hasn’t been terribly much evolution on that front. But I am happy to see you back. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/17 "2020-01-26T17:33:43Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > Wait, what? > > Shodan spouts right-wing talking points, ignores any post that proves him wrong., etc. > > The fact that he is the “best” that the right has to offer is a testament to how shitty the right is. Yes. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/18 "2020-01-26T18:28:32Z")
How many years is _many years_? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/19 "2020-01-26T18:38:02Z")
It was 6-8, but out in 5 for good behavior and time served. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964/20 "2020-01-26T18:43:20Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Even Shodan has his funny moments. His judgement on matters apart from politics can be remarkably sound. I get the impression that his collections of books, music, films, and porn would prove a fine source of entertainment. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-_many-years_-i-return-to-sdmb-to-find-shodan/846964.md?page=2)