# After Cantillion when was next pitched battle artillery played a pivotal role?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-cantillion-when-was-next-pitched-battle-artillery-played-a-pivotal-role/774252>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 9, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-cantillion-when-was-next-pitched-battle-artillery-played-a-pivotal-role/774252 "2016-12-09T03:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-cantillion-when-was-next-pitched-battle-artillery-played-a-pivotal-role/774252/1 "2016-12-09T03:42:08Z")

</div>

When it’s remembered at all on the English side of the channel (as it is when we finally lost the 100 years war 🙂 ) the [battle of Cantillion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Castillon)is mainly remember as the first time cannon were decisively used in a pitched battle (as opposed to siege warfare).

But after that I have not encountered any mention of artillery playing a major roll in open battle, until the English Civil war centuries later (and even then, rarely decisively). Is this just my Anglocentric slant on history, or is Castillon actually an outlier?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ignotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecc23a/32.png) [@Ignotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignotus)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-cantillion-when-was-next-pitched-battle-artillery-played-a-pivotal-role/774252/2 "2016-12-09T05:56:13Z")

</div>

Less than a century after Castillion: the battles of [Marignano](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marignano) (1515) and [Bicocca](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bicocca) (1522).