# Again, a few "Christians" who give the rest a bad name **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 5, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390 "2003-07-05T16:30:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/21 "2003-07-05T22:03:02Z")
**Millen** , I suggest you go through all of GD, IMHO, and The Pit for the past several years, note all 3,709, 354 occurances of the word “fundie” and report all of them, too. Ought to keep you busy for a while. It’s simply a shortened form of fundamentalists. If you really had a problem with it, you could’ve reported the post with out telling us, or e-mailed **Ivyless** privately. Such pharisaical attitudes don’t set well with us Dopers, Christian or not. ---
**Author:** ![ArtyDooDoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@ArtyDooDoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArtyDooDoo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/22 "2003-07-05T22:04:35Z")
Millen, I’m bored and in need of entertainment. please tell us why fundie is “hate speech”. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/23 "2003-07-05T22:04:37Z")
And **Millen** , nothing will be done. You wanna know why? Because the OP made it very clear that they were not slamming all Christians, or even all fundamentalists. They were slamming very specific “fundies”. Heck, I’ve seen worse in GD, and certainly much more vindictive stuff in the Pit. This was a good rant, and you seriously need to chill out. Stop wasting the moderators’ time on quibbles. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/24 "2003-07-05T22:07:52Z")
**ivylass** , careful you don’t paint all Christians with the same broad brush now. Even with disclaimers, [we know how seriously our fellow Dopers take such matters](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188095). :rolleyes: Anyway, these “christians” are no Christians at all. It’s sad. Good luck to your relatives. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/25 "2003-07-05T22:23:32Z")
So should we pit **Millen** for being a fucking idiot in this thread, or should we start a new one? ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/26 "2003-07-05T22:24:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Millen \* > \*\*hopefool, this is not a joke, and I did report the post. \*\* I would be very, very afraid! (grumbling while shaking my head)…“_Damn fundie_” ---
**Author:** ![Eilsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eilsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eilsel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/27 "2003-07-05T22:31:21Z")
I don’t particularly care for the term “fundie” but I don’t take offense at it…and I was raised as an evangelical fundamentalist LOL. Can we say “REEE VIIII VALLLL???” LOL At least they weren’t held in tents…but in the a/c. lol I don’t agree, Esprix, that they aren’t Christians simply because you don’t know their hearts and neither do any of us. Christians, just like the rest of the world, can be misguided but it doesn’t mean they’re any less of a Christian…just that they’re not following what they’re supposedly preaching. ---
**Author:** ![Millen89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Millen89](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millen89)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/28 "2003-07-05T22:32:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hopefool \* > \*\*Well, I suppose then that I’ve now officially seen everything. Tell me though, if you don’t mind me asking, is it because you are a fundamentalist yourself, or is this merely a “devil’s advocate” position? (No pun intended.) 🙂 \*\* I don’t mind, I am not a Fundamentalist Christian. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/29 "2003-07-05T22:35:14Z")
Laughing out loud - I was raised in a fundamentalist religion, and can guarantee that 99% of the church members in the church I visited don’t own a computer (not to mention a TV or radio). Barking up the wrong tree, **Millen** , and if that’s all it takes to offend you…well, stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/30 "2003-07-05T22:37:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lezlers \* > That’s the thing about a lot of fundies: they do not possess the ability to _think for themselves_. Well, the Christian fundamentalists _do_ call themselves “sheep”… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eilsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eilsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eilsel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/31 "2003-07-05T22:41:59Z")
be very very careful… ---
**Author:** ![Millen89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Millen89](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millen89)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/32 "2003-07-05T22:49:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\ ***Millen** , I suggest you go through all of GD, IMHO, and The Pit for the past several years, note all 3,709, 354 occurances of the word “fundie” and report all of them, too. Ought to keep you busy for a while. > > It’s simply a shortened form of fundamentalists. > > If you really had a problem with it, you could’ve reported the post with out telling us, or e-mailed **Ivyless** privately. > > Such pharisaical attitudes don’t set well with us Dopers, Christian or not. > \*\* \*\*NoClueBoy \*\*, what purpose would that serve? I do have a problem with it. When did it become unfashionable to point our ignorant statements on the SDMB? ---
**Author:** ![Eilsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eilsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eilsel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/33 "2003-07-05T22:53:57Z")
If the shoe fits… ---
**Author:** ![Millen89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Millen89](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millen89)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/34 "2003-07-05T23:06:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ArtyDooDoo \* > \*\*Millen, I’m bored and in need of entertainment. please tell us why fundie is “hate speech”. \*\* On this board, fundie has been used, countless times, to portray Fundamentalist Christians as: - Unable to think for themselves. - Close-minded - Mean-spirited Therefore, it demeans an entire group of people that share the same religious beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Eilsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eilsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eilsel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/35 "2003-07-05T23:10:15Z")
So whiner portrays people as: -close minded -selfish -annoying -pot stirrer So therefore by analogy, it demeans that whole group of people too… so, please, stop whining. ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/36 "2003-07-05T23:19:08Z")
**Millen** , I’m not criticizing, but how would it be any different if we used “Fundamentalist Christian” to denote all of those things as opposed to “Fundie”? Either way, we’d be (as you say) demeaning all fundamentalist Christians. ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/37 "2003-07-05T23:20:18Z")
An addendum: Actually, we wouldn’t. I think “fundie” really means the Fundamentalist Christians who exemplify the behaviours we call “fundie.” Using fundamentalist Christian instead would actually make our “discrimination” broader in scope. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/38 "2003-07-05T23:30:26Z")
At the risk of a hijack (and please, **do not** post to this linked, long dead thread), we have gone over this before: [Wildest Bill brings up an interesting point about the term ‘Fundie’.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88512) However, while “fundie” _may_ be insulting, (and we certainly do permit insults in the **Pit** ), it is more used as shorthand. It is, perhaps, a bit dismissive, but hardly in the category of racial or ethnic epithets. (Anyone ever see **FUNDIE** spray painted on a church wall?) I am a papist who has used both papist and mackeral-snapper on these boards, and I have laughed out loud at ignorant people who have attempted to use papist as an insult. Fundie is not even based on a hate phrase or a disrespectful word, being merely a contraction of the word certain conservative Christians use to identify themselves. What’s next? Are we to ban “pubbie” when referring to Republicans? “Libbie” when referring to Liberals? Is “commie” hate speech? This whole hijack is simply silly and, I suspect, is intended more to see who will rise to strike than to actually point out a problem. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/39 "2003-07-05T23:31:29Z")
> [@](#): > > On this board, fundie has been used, countless times, to portray Fundamentalist Christians as: > > - Unable to think for themselves. > - Close-minded > - Mean-spirited “Fundie” is just shorthand for “fundamentalist Christian.” It is not hate speech. Hate speech is attacking people for their gender, race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation, not for ideology. If we outlaw “fundie” then we should outlaw “Pubbie” for Republican," “Commie” for Communist. and so on. **Millen** , you are a donkey-raping uncle fucker. How’s that for hate speech? (And 5 will get you 10 the moron won’t be able to identify the quote) ---
**Author:** ![lovelee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@lovelee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lovelee)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/40 "2003-07-05T23:38:36Z")
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