# Again, a few "Christians" who give the rest a bad name

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 5, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390 "2003-07-05T16:30:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eilsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eilsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eilsel)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/101 "2003-07-06T14:43:38Z")

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“It is not my intention to get anyone banned from this board. In each my two reports, I have stated that I would prefer that the offender not be banned.”  
Ummm, gee, don’t flatter yourself…do you think your whining to the mods is gonna get everyone banned? You really think you have THAT kind of “power.” RME

Ivylass - I don’t know that they’re being chased away from their faith, but just being cautious. It’s sad to think that they have to find another church and hopefully that’s the case and not that they’ll stop going altogether. But I know I didn’t go for over 15 years and now I’m back again. I hope they’re much stronger not only for themselves but for their kids. It’s also sad when you realize the people you thought were your friends and brothers/sisters in Christ have turned on you…

sigh

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/102 "2003-07-06T15:10:34Z")

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I think we’ve found another Junior Mod Camper[sup]TM[/sup]!

And, yes, **Blonde** , good 'ol Abilene will forever hold a place in my heart as the most evil place ever.

Robin

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/103 "2003-07-06T15:52:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ivylass \*  
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> Minor nitpick, **Bosda** , there’s no “G” in my name. 🙂 \*\*

My apologies, m’dear. I _am not_ a bad speller–I am simply not a good typist.🙂

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/104 "2003-07-06T15:52:43Z")

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Oh, you meant Abilene in _West_ Texas. Not West, Texas. I was confused because West, Texas is home to a large Czech population and scrumptious kolaches. I’ve been to Westfest and they didn’t seem too fundaloonie there.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/105 "2003-07-06T17:09:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eilsel \*  
> [BIvylass - I don’t know that they’re being chased away from their faith, but just being cautious. It’s sad to think that they have to find another church and hopefully that’s the case and not that they’ll stop going altogether.  
> \*\*

Yes, perhaps I misspoke. Chased away from the “church,” not the faith.

We’ll see what the pastor says when he comes back from vacation.

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**Author:** ![Millen89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Millen89](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millen89)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/106 "2003-07-06T17:24:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Arnold Winkelried \*  
> \*\*Millen, while your enthusiasm to help the staff is commendable, please do not feel that it is necessary to alert us every time you see the word fundie in a thread. We are aware of the issue. \*\*

**Arnold Winkelried** , I will not report anyone else for using the term “fundie”. For the record, I reported a total of two posts.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/107 "2003-07-06T17:28:16Z")

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**Millen** , if you’re doing this for attention, it’s gonna get real old, real fast.

Find a new schtick. The annoying suck-up, goody-goody, snitch act won’t last too long around here.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/108 "2003-07-06T17:28:40Z")

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> It is intended to be an insult. It is a claim of some people that Catholics hold the pope in higher esteem than Jesus. However, it is such a silly claim and such a weak insult that people who use it generally make themselves look foolish by their use of it as an insult.

It’s the “if you ice cream so much, why don’t you marry it!!?” of religious insults.

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**Author:** ![Eilsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eilsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eilsel)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/109 "2003-07-06T17:47:30Z")

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Ivy, doesn’t the church have an elder board or assistant pastor that can do something? I mean…this seems ridiculous that they have to wait until the pastor gets back from vacation. Our church is very small and our elder board is the pastor and an elder lol but one of them is always available when the other isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/110 "2003-07-06T17:58:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MsRobyn \*  
> \*\*I think we’ve found another Junior Mod Camper[sup]TM[/sup]!
> 
> And, yes, **Blonde** , good 'ol Abilene will forever hold a place in my heart as the most evil place ever.
> 
> Robin \*\*

::sings::

Abilene, Abilene  
Cruelest town that Robyn’s seen  
Fundies there will treat you mean  
In Abilene, sweet Abilene

::: ducks various rotten vegtables hurled at him :::

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/111 "2003-07-06T18:04:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eilsel \*  
> \*\*Ivy, doesn’t the church have an elder board or assistant pastor that can do something? I mean…this seems ridiculous that they have to wait until the pastor gets back from vacation. Our church is very small and our elder board is the pastor and an elder lol but one of them is always available when the other isn’t. \*\*

I can ask that. I don’t know if there’s an assistant pastor. Maybe they want to wait for the pastor because of the “authority.”

I guess it’s the difference between speaking to a store manager and the regional supervisor…one may have more “pull,” so to speak.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/112 "2003-07-06T18:23:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Millen \*  
> \*\ ***Arnold Winkelried** , I will not report anyone else for using the term “fundie”. For the record, I reported a total of two posts. \*\*

Congratulations for winning today’s ‘Can’t Let It Die’ award.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/113 "2003-07-06T18:23:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Homebrew \*  
> \*\*Oh, you meant Abilene in _West_ Texas. Not West, Texas. I was confused because West, Texas is home to a large Czech population and scrumptious kolaches. I’ve been to Westfest and they didn’t seem too fundaloonie there. \*\*

I’ve been to West, Texas, and it was quite a nice visit. I still have the stuffed cat I got while I was there. 🙂

Robin

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/114 "2003-07-06T19:11:55Z")

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**ivylass** , may I humbly suggest that in further posts about this situation you refer to your in-law’s fellow congregation members not as “fundies” but as “donkey-raping, moose-molesting, bigoted, unimaginative morons who should have their pancreases chewed out by rabid marmots, and who happen to be fundamentalist Christians.” You could abbreviate it as drmmbumwshtpcobrm,awhtbfC’s. It gets the point across, and **Millen** has to either take the attention-whoring act on the road or start accusing you of unfairly maligning the moose-molesters. Thus, everyone’s happy.

Oh, and in addition to the story **Dr.J** told about my brother, someone also tried to have him suspended for worshipping Satan on school property. He and his friends used to use the half-hour before homeroom to game rather than getting into fistfights, doing drugs, or having sex in the janitorial closets, so obviously they must be evil.

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**Author:** ![Eilsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eilsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eilsel)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/115 "2003-07-06T20:55:54Z")

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Ivy,

Actually, the pastor doesn’t have as much authority as you think, lol, at least in many congregations. Typically people go to the pastor w/problems but he must take them to the elder board or other such entity. He doesn’t get to make a lot of the decisions alone.

Just an fyi, it may be worth it for them to seek the advice of the head elder there.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/116 "2003-07-06T21:27:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*\*_Grienspace_, the fundamentlists who get bahsed, like \*_Jersey Diamond, His4Ever, and Joe\_Cool_ provoke controversy by posting grossly hateful comments in the first place.  
> \*\*

**gobear** , I reported you to the mods for failing to preview and lack of connection with reality, demonstrated by your consistently opening the bold tag and closing with the italics tag.

Now THOSE are bannable offenses!

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/117 "2003-07-06T21:27:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \*  
> \*\ ***ivylass** , may I humbly suggest that in further posts about this situation you refer to your in-law’s fellow congregation members not as “fundies” but as “donkey-raping, moose-molesting, bigoted, unimaginative morons who should have their pancreases chewed out by rabid marmots, and who happen to be fundamentalist Christians.” You could abbreviate it as drmmbumwshtpcobrm,awhtbfC’s. It gets the point across, and **Millen** has to either take the attention-whoring act on the road or start accusing you of unfairly maligning the moose-molesters. Thus, everyone’s happy.
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> Oh, and in addition to the story **Dr.J** told about my brother, someone also tried to have him suspended for worshipping Satan on school property. He and his friends used to use the half-hour before homeroom to game rather than getting into fistfights, doing drugs, or having sex in the janitorial closets, so obviously they must be evil. \*\*

Sorry, **CrazyCatLady** , but Syphilitic Donkey Raping Systems is a registered trademark of the firm **Steve Wright** works for. So I must ask you to emend your **Millen** -proof vituperative string to omit any reference to forcible sex with _Equus asinus_ (though _Asinus ferox fundius_ might be a useful short form… ;)).

[hijack]  
What with **ivylass, Guano Lad, No Clue Boy, Crazy Cat Lady** and others that will come quickly to mind, we have the makings of a Legion of Super Dopers! 😉  
[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/118 "2003-07-07T00:13:25Z")

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**Ivylass** , sorry to hear about that.

I dunno how much this will help, but here are a couple of resources that your BIL might appreciate:

[The Escapist](http://www.theescapist.com/) is a Web site devoted to information about roleplaying games, designed for folks who have vague and uninformed religious objections to them. It might be worth looking through their FAQs for information to give to the moose-molesting church members; if those donkey-raping fundies keep up their assaults, the Escapist occasionally organizes letterwriting campaigns and such, and makes themselves available to any local reporters that want to do a story on the situation. (Hopefully, of course, the idiotic attempt to shut the store down won’t progress that far).

One of my favorite places online is [The EN Boards](http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/), a busy messageboard devoted to Dungeons and Dragons. If your BIL posts over there about his situation, he’s bound to get some advice from other game-store owners who’ve experienced similar harrassment. What’s more, he might find some new customers in his area who would be only too happy to make his their new Friendly Local Gaming Store (FLGS).

Give him my best, and give the bigots who happen to be fundies my worst!

Daniel

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/119 "2003-07-07T01:09:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
> ::: ducks various rotten vegtables hurled at him :::

Well there goes running nekkid through THIS thread.

Thanks a whole heap, **Poly** , you damn Fundie!😉

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/again-a-few-christians-who-give-the-rest-a-bad-name/186390/120 "2003-07-07T01:27:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Leaper \*  
> \*\ ***gobear** , I reported you to the mods for failing to preview and lack of connection with reality, demonstrated by your consistently opening the bold tag and closing with the italics tag.
> 
> Now THOSE are bannable offenses! \*\*

I plead lack of coffee first thing in the morning as an extenuating circumstance!

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