# Against my better judgment, the billfish678 banning

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567>\
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**Created:** [February 10, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567 "2018-02-10T03:10:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/61 "2018-02-10T23:12:42Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> Why is this thread about Shagnasty now anyway?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/62 "2018-02-10T23:22:03Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> ..

Right?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/63 "2018-02-10T23:23:19Z")

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For what little it’s worth as the OP…question asked and answered. I’m happy to see this one taken out back and nonthreateningly put down.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/64 "2018-02-10T23:25:14Z")

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You mean b **irc** h-slapped.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/65 "2018-02-11T02:56:02Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> Why is this thread about Shagnasty now anyway?

Seeing prejudice and persecution, he doesn’t want to make the same mistakes as Martin Niemöller.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/66 "2018-02-11T02:58:40Z")

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**Moderator Note**

This thread isn’t about **Shagnasty**. Let’s all stick to the topic at hand please.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/67 "2018-02-11T03:40:43Z")

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He says he is not some “‘wetback’ that spends time on some other board and brings that crap here.” The rest of that clause refers to **GIGOblaster** ’s previous actions, so he is clearly also calling GIGOblaster a “wetback.” Otherwise the sentence does not make sense. Putting quotes around something doesn’t necessarily turn it into a mention instead of a use.

And, yes, his edit was after he had clearly seen the moderator instructions. And It was that edit that violated the moderator instructions. Once he admitted he had seen it, he should have also removed the offending part from the post.

It’s all emblematic of his underlying problem. He just never stopped to think for a minute before he posted. If he’d thought about it, he’d realize that his sentence was calling **GIGOblaster** a slur, and he’d realize that editing in that he hadn’t seen a mod note would only prove he had now seen it.

I do also remember him getting quite a few mod notes where the mods reminded him time and time again to take some time to consider what he said before he said it, to avoid winding up in trouble.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/68 "2018-02-11T04:31:33Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> It’s all emblematic of his underlying problem. He just never stopped to think for a minute before he posted. If he’d thought about it, he’d realize that his sentence was calling **GIGOblaster** a slur, and he’d realize that editing in that he hadn’t seen a mod note would only prove he had now seen it.

(Quoted post snipped)

I disagree. I really don’t think that, even if he’d stopped and thought about it, he would have given enough of a shit to change his post.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/69 "2018-02-11T10:29:58Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I disagree. I really don’t think that, even if he’d stopped and thought about it, he would have given enough of a shit to change his post.

+1

He took a lot of pride in being abrasive to the point of daring the mods to ban him. People have posted about his seeming desire for suicide by mods.

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**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/70 "2018-02-11T15:50:23Z")

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bitch slap:

[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitch%20slap](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitch%20slap)  
Term is used figuratively to mean putting someone in their place (or diss) in no uncertain terms.

[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bitch-slap](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bitch-slap)  
to humiliate (someone) with ridicule, criticism, or other verbal abuse

[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bitch-slap](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bitch-slap)  
—often used figuratively

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/71 "2018-02-11T17:38:59Z")

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Still runs afoul of the “don’t be a jerk” rule

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/72 "2018-02-11T17:48:07Z")

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> [@Turble](#):
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> bitch slap:
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> [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitch%20slap](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitch%20slap)  
> Term is used figuratively to mean putting someone in their place (or diss) in no uncertain terms.
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> [http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bitch-slap](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bitch-slap)  
> to humiliate (someone) with ridicule, criticism, or other verbal abuse
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> [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bitch-slap](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bitch-slap)  
> —often used figuratively

Your third link is not opening for me, but the first two definitions in the Urban Dictionary link and the first definition in the [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) link all refer to the physical act. I don’t think anyone in this thread was arguing that the term could _never_ be used figuratively.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/73 "2018-02-11T18:18:31Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Your third link is not opening for me, but the first two definitions in the Urban Dictionary link and the first definition in the [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) link all refer to the physical act. I don’t think anyone in this thread was arguing that the term could _never_ be used figuratively.

MW (3rd link)defines it as:

slang  
: to slap (someone) angrily usually as an expression of dominance, contempt, or disrespect

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/74 "2018-02-11T19:15:29Z")

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So, just to clarify, I shouldn’t threaten to “rhetorically bitch-slap” someone?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/75 "2018-02-11T20:11:23Z")

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Please no. See post #36 for clarity that addresses every argument advanced thus far.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-my-better-judgment-the-billfish678-banning/808567/76 "2018-02-11T20:45:13Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> So, just to clarify, I shouldn’t threaten to “rhetorically bitch-slap” someone?

Seems pretty jerkish to me.

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