# Against U2. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107 "2009-01-26T19:51:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/141 "2009-02-02T14:08:32Z")
> [@Dead\_Badger](#): > > It’s got to be Coldplay. That dickhead even named his daughter “Apple”. Now _there’s_ brand loyalty (a vomit-inducing concept if ever there was one). Jesus fucking Christ. There just aren’t words for that. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/142 "2009-02-02T15:21:30Z")
Just in case I needed something else, I had to go to a friend’s son’s concert yesterday for his “rock school” and they decided that this was going to be a U2 cover concert. Not only is U2 even worse when young children are playing it, the entire thing turned into a benefit for fucking Darfur and we were preached at (badly) about Bono’s cause de jour for over an hour. Man, fuck U2, ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/143 "2009-02-02T15:37:11Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Jesus fucking Christ. There just aren’t words for that. Well, I was speaking partly tongue-in-cheek; I have literally no idea _why_ Chris Martin named his daughter that, nor whether he even uses Macs, it was just a link that amused me. I suspect the name is more down to terrible taste than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/144 "2009-02-03T00:49:18Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Fanboy I ain’t though I certainly think they’ve done some worthwhile stuff. But you clearly have nothing other than a vague but utterly unsupportable assertion you pulled from your ass but are unable to back with anything. There’s not a word in your quoted post that amounts to jack shit. > > All the Edge does is milk the “EXACT SAME” guitar line. Fine. I play guitar a little. I understand some musical basics. Let’s talk actual tracks and guitar lines from all his stuff and give me a point by point on how it’s all the “EXACT SAME”. Or are you full of it? > > All their albums are just versions of the first one. Come on, give us some musical analysis. Are we talking lyrical themes? Chord progressions? What? Just hot air, I suspect. > > Heck, you’re not even consistent. First we hear that all the Edge does is milk the “EXACT SAME guitar line” but now when you’re called on that steaming load you segue off into some assertions someone else plays it better. > > Why don’t you just say “U2 teh suxxors”? It’d amount to as much. You sure seem intent on having me support something almost completely subjective with a completely objective argument and that simply cannot be done. You are absolutely correct and I am a blithering Moron. U2 is the greatest Rock and Roll band IN HISTORY!!! Bono sits at the right hand of Og. The Edge is the most talented guitar/artist ever!!!, he is a truly amazing player and Angels sing whenever he steps out from his house. Now, please excuse me as the Bono candle on my U2 altar is getting low and I simply Cannot allow it to burn-out EVER. Bite me fanboi Unclviny ---
**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/145 "2009-02-03T01:06:42Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > big snip… > Why don’t you just say “U2 teh suxxors”? It’d amount to as much. I did, see post #135 in this thread. To hear everything The Fudge ever played (only played smoother and better) listen to this [http://www.singingfool.com/Title.aspx?publishedid=706320](http://www.singingfool.com/Title.aspx?publishedid=706320). Unclviny ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/146 "2009-02-03T04:03:30Z")
> [@unclviny](#): > > You sure seem intent on having me support something almost completely subjective with a completely objective argument and that simply cannot be done. Actually, the statements that all their albums are versions of the first one and that all the Edges guitar lines are the “EXACT SAME” are objective statements. Wrong (as you’ve pretty much tacitly admitted now) but objective. > [@](#): > > You are absolutely correct and I am a blithering Moron. U2 is the greatest Rock and Roll band IN HISTORY!!! Bono sits at the right hand of Og. The Edge is the most talented guitar/artist ever!!!, he is a truly amazing player and Angels sing whenever he steps out from his house. Why are you making these statements? They don’t have anything to do with anything I have said. They seem to contradict your previous statements. Are you somewhat mentally confused? Or are you trying some sort of desperate strawman here? Nah, that couldn’t be it. > [@unclviny](#): > > To hear everything The Fudge ever played (only played smoother and better) listen to this [http://www.singingfool.com/Title.aspx?publishedid=706320](http://www.singingfool.com/Title.aspx?publishedid=706320). Since I’ve never said that the guy is the most capable etc guitarist I don’t know why the hell this comment is said in response to a post of mine. Let me give you a brief lesson in logic. This is probably going over your head, but try to understand, mmkay? The statement that the Edge does is milk the “EXACT SAME guitar line” is a statement concerning whether or not he always plays the exact same guitar lines. It is not a statement about his playing ability, his smoothness, or whether he is better or worse than anyone else at playing the lines that he plays. No amount of strawmanning my position is going to make this any different. No amount of ad homs are going to make this any different. No amount of telling me how other guitarists are better and smoother is going to make this any different. ---
**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/147 "2009-02-03T04:39:41Z")
**Princhester** , Take your semantics and your B.S. and shove them where the Sun don’t shine!. I can not have a battle of the wits with an unarmed person, it just feels “wrong” U2 is teh suxxors!!!11!!1 I’m done with this thread Unclviny ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/148 "2009-02-03T05:35:11Z")
A simple, “OK, you’re right. My previous statements were incorrect” would have sufficed. But alternatively you just go right ahead and melt down. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/149 "2009-02-03T08:36:54Z")
I’ve been giving this thread some thought, **Freejooky** , and something just doesn’t sit right. I mean, they’ve obviously disappointed you and left a bad taste in your mouth, but the way you’re writing about them, you seem to act like you never had love. You sure you’re doing ok? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107/150 "2009-02-03T19:34:44Z")
Daddy won’t pay for his new crashed car and he’s been unhappy with them ever since. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/against-u2/483107.md?page=7)