# Agent Carter S01E03: Time and Tide **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 14, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783 "2015-01-14T02:29:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/21 "2015-01-15T17:54:03Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > It’s still suspicious to me that we have not seen Anna, only heard her off screen. Something is up with that, I just don’t know what. Maybe she actually died instead of escaping the war, and Stark made Jarvis a thing that sounds like her to help dull the pain of losing her? Looking at pictures or videos of your deceased wife - fond memories that help dull the pain. A box, probably glowing, that’s a talking AI that behaves like it’s her - quick path to insanity. IMHO. Of course, Anna being a primitive AI certainly fits in with the modern Jarvis. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/22 "2015-01-16T03:19:12Z")
James D’Arcy is a surprisingly good actor. Very subtle but realistic array of emotions, moving smoothly across his face. Kid needs more work. (looking at IMDB) No, I guess he’s constantly working. Kid needs a vacation. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/23 "2015-01-16T04:02:41Z")
Jarvis calling in that “anonymous” tip was a good gag. I was expecting him to do an over-the-top NYC accent, he didn’t disappoint. Also agreed that something funny is going on with his wife, Anna. In the first couple episodes, my thought was her character is kept “off-screen” because maybe they only needed to establish her existence for Jarvis’ sake, and other than that was of no substance to the story itself. But now three episodes in, they keep her off-screen, yet in the fold for the story, so there must be a twisty reason. And yeh, I thought Leviathan is Dottie too. I hope they’re just setting up a red herring on that one, otherwise it’s too obvious too soon. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/24 "2015-01-16T04:14:08Z")
Not much time for “too soon” in 8 episodes. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/25 "2015-01-16T04:16:18Z")
Well, to put it in perspective, it’s like figuring out ‘Who Done It’ in the first act of a film. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/26 "2015-01-16T15:05:01Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Well, to put it in perspective, it’s like figuring out ‘Who Done It’ in the first act of a film. Or it could be like the woman getting murdered in Psycho: a twist indicating the story isn’t about what you think it is. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/27 "2015-01-16T15:21:49Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Or it could be like the woman getting murdered in Psycho: a twist indicating the story isn’t about what you think it is. True, as this isn’t necessarily a ‘who done it’, per se. ---
**Author:** ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/28 "2015-01-16T19:10:13Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > It’s still suspicious to me that we have not seen Anna, only heard her off screen. Something is up with that, I just don’t know what. I wonder if Dottie could actually be Anna, and keeping Anna off screen is just necessary to hide that. This would also point to Anna / Dottie either being Leviathin, or at least having evil intent, perhaps as a part of Leviathin’s organisation. J. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/29 "2015-01-17T00:47:28Z")
I don’t think not showing Anna is in any way part of the plot. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/30 "2015-01-17T01:26:06Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > So just an FYI - next week they’re rebroadcasting last night’s episode, since the State of the Union address is at 9. The next new episode won’t be until the following week, the 27th. Thanks Obama… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/31 "2015-01-17T02:43:25Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I don’t think not showing Anna is in any way part of the plot. Yeah, me neither, but watching the others turn into conspiracy theorists before our eyes is kinda funny. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/32 "2015-01-17T03:04:26Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Furthermore, Stark’s lawyers could rip SSR a new one if they found out that SSR was hiding evidence. So not only did Carter ruin SSR’s bluff, it made it so they’d need to be more scrupulous in going after Jarvis in the future, to prevent Stark’s lawyers from getting even more ammo against them. This really bothered me. Lawyers could get involved with the NYPD. Lawyers pulling that stuff on the country’s top security agency during the Cold War on behalf of a flunky working for a suspected traitor? It is to laugh. One thing I couldn’t catch even on replay. When the muscleman found Peggy he said that _someone_ said she might be there. Who was that someone? ---
**Author:** ![OHS201](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6de8d8/32.png) [@OHS201](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OHS201)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/33 "2015-01-18T19:08:28Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > One thing I couldn’t catch even on replay. When the muscleman found Peggy he said that _someone_ said she might be there. Who was that someone? The killer with the hat (who bumped off Krzeminski and the muscleman) was seen in the shadows, observing Peggy and Jarvis arrive… so I assume it was he/she who sent the muscleman in. The muscleman obviously knew hat-guy, since he pleaded that he didn’t tell them anything. So, my reading of scenario is that hat-guy watched them arrive and sent in muscle, then decided muscle might talk. The death of Krzeminski was collateral. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/34 "2015-01-18T22:18:25Z")
> [@OHS201](#): > > The killer with the hat (who bumped off Krzeminski and the muscleman) was seen in the shadows, observing Peggy and Jarvis arrive… so I assume it was he/she who sent the muscleman in. The muscleman obviously knew hat-guy, since he pleaded that he didn’t tell them anything. So, my reading of scenario is that hat-guy watched them arrive and sent in muscle, then decided muscle might talk. The death of Krzeminski was collateral. This. I’m still trying to figure out Stark’s comment in episode 1 the “and she’ll never know…” ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783/35 "2015-01-19T00:11:55Z")
> [@OHS201](#): > > The killer with the hat (who bumped off Krzeminski and the muscleman) was seen in the shadows, observing Peggy and Jarvis arrive… so I assume it was he/she who sent the muscleman in. The muscleman obviously knew hat-guy, since he pleaded that he didn’t tell them anything. So, my reading of scenario is that hat-guy watched them arrive and sent in muscle, then decided muscle might talk. The death of Krzeminski was collateral. But Krzeminski said a name. That can’t be killer with the hat, or else we would know who that is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agent-carter-s01e03-time-and-tide/709783.md?page=1)