# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D: Ghost Rider - Season 4 thread (Open Spoilers for aired episodes)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 28, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309 "2016-11-28T19:23:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/41 "2016-12-09T02:38:21Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Anyone going to watch the online streaming Yo Yo series? Slingshot, I think it’s called?

Depends. Can you watch it from the website, or do you have to use the app, like they said in the promo? Because I’m not downloading an app, just to watch it.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/42 "2016-12-09T17:49:32Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> As for the next half season…sigh…bad robots again? Really? Maybe it’s just because I’m coming off of 10 weeks of Westworld, but it’s so lame to me to have a “I created an AI! Oh no it’s bad!” storyline. It’s the lazy man’s sci-fi.

Yeah. I haven’t been watching Westworld, but still, it would’ve been nice to see a rogue scientist create an AI and it’s just fine for once, just to subvert all the obvious expectations. With a speedster and an evil AI, this just feels too much like a direct-to-video ripoff of like half the recent blockbusters.

But even despite this, I really liked the episode. Lots of good coming-together-as-a-team moments. I also liked how dejected Mace seemed when he said, “we’re not a team that trusts”. It’s like he genuinely believes in that phrase, and I like that they have him play it straight.

My favorite line was Coulson’s “You’re drunk on power! Or you drinking your own Kool-Aid! Or drunk on Powerade!”.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/43 "2016-12-09T18:09:07Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> I also liked how dejected Mace seemed when he said, “we’re not a team that trusts”. It’s like he genuinely believes in that phrase, and I like that they have him play it straight.

I think he’s kind of a boy scout at heart, trying to succeed in a messy world. But I like the character and I think the rest of the SHIELD team is growing to respect him. I suspect both sides will learn to compromise, like Mace did with Daisy. She’s already inclined to like him and Coulson clearly respects him.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/44 "2016-12-09T18:40:53Z")

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“We’re going to make you the face of the Inhumans”  
“Yeah, right…maybe in a comic book”

Lulz on the meta.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/45 "2016-12-09T19:26:59Z")

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Have they changed YoYo’s power? I don’t remember her being a straight speedster - I thought she kind of launched herself at (super) speed, but always sprang back to where she started (hence YoYo). But here she is just another Flash/Quicksilver clone?

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/46 "2016-12-09T19:34:49Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Have they changed YoYo’s power? I don’t remember her being a straight speedster - I thought she kind of launched herself at (super) speed, but always sprang back to where she started (hence YoYo). But here she is just another Flash/Quicksilver clone?

She did go back to where she started both times she used her power here. She can only go for a single hearbeat or something like that, so maybe she’s been doing tons of cardio to get her heart rate as low as possible.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/47 "2016-12-09T20:11:57Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The MCU might slightly chicken-out in that regard, make the “magic” of Doctor Strange, Ghost Rider and the Darkhold out to be just more examples of funky alien super-science, like Asgardian “technology”.

Well, the Darkhold was written by Thor’s uncle (granted, on his mom’s side, elder god/demon, not asgardian)

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/48 "2016-12-09T20:57:20Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> She did go back to where she started both times she used her power here. She can only go for a single hearbeat or something like that, so maybe she’s been doing tons of cardio to get her heart rate as low as possible.

I think she has to hold her breath the whole time.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ghost-rider-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/773309/49 "2016-12-09T21:59:13Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I think she has to hold her breath the whole time.

It’s a super powered version of the Indian sport of [Kabaddi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabaddi).

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