# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D: LMD - Season 4 thread (Open Spoilers for aired episodes) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 12, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930 "2017-01-12T02:31:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/241 "2017-05-11T17:24:04Z")
FWIW, every season to date has ended with the death/destruction of the main enemy, followed by some wrapup and a scene or two teasing the plot of the next season: Season 1: Garrett gets disintegrated, Raina tells Cal “I found your daughter.” Season 2: Jiaying is defeated & dies, Teragenesis crystals eaten by fish and Jemma sucked into the monolith. Season 3: Hive dies with Lincoln in orbit, Renegade Daisy being chased by Coulson & Mac. I strongly suspect they’ll just continue that formula. The teaser may include the new Inhuman series. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/242 "2017-05-11T20:59:04Z")
Well, looks like all the predictions of dead people in the framework getting new bodies in the real world are sunk. The human printer got blown up with the oil platform base, no? I suppose Fitz and Aida might be able to build another one, but it seems unlikely. Episode felt a bit rushed. Some great scenes, but I feel like it should have been two episodes. Wasn’t as great as the recent ones, and I was REALLY not thrilled to see ghost rider back. Sigh… I was hoping not to see him for a while… or ever. Same goes for the Russian. Never liked him when there was only one of him. Multiples doesn’t help matters. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/243 "2017-05-11T21:38:59Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I really liked AIDA/Ophelia’s heart getting broken - I thought it was played really well. I’ve been impressed with Mallory Jansen’s work all season long. She’s played: • android Aida • regular woman Agnes Kitsworth • Madame Hydra • simulation Agnes • human (discovering emotions) Aida and IMO, as made each one a distinctive character. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/244 "2017-05-11T23:27:19Z")
> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#): > > I’ve been impressed with Mallory Jansen’s work all season long. > She’s played: > • android Aida > • regular woman Agnes Kitsworth > • Madame Hydra > • simulation Agnes > • human (discovering emotions) Aida > and IMO, as made each one a distinctive character. In addition to the subtle changes in how she’s acted the different roles, in the timeline of someone I follow on Twitter, someone was also praising the makeup/costuming for the job they’ve done with even making Mallory look slightly different, depending on which role she was fulfilling. Like, even her hair and skin looks a little more artificial as Aida, versus Ophelia. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/245 "2017-05-12T00:53:32Z")
Bumping for the announcement, that ABC has finally gotten off the pot and renewed for season 5. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/246 "2017-05-12T01:55:55Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > Well, looks like all the predictions of dead people in the framework getting new bodies in the real world are sunk. The human printer got blown up with the oil platform base, no? I suppose Fitz and Aida might be able to build another one, but it seems unlikely. We saw Yoyo alive at the end, but I wonder about Mack… > [@BrianJ](#): > > Maybe they will 3d print Hope to get mack out. Assuming Mack is still alive, I wouldn’t want them to print Hope. That would just seem wrong. And it’s like the start of a horror movie. > [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#): > > I’ve been impressed with Mallory Jansen’s work all season long. Me, too. I agree with other posts that she will most likely be killed off next week, but it wouldn’t bother me if she comes back in one form or another. And to state the obvious, good lord she is gorgeous! ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/247 "2017-05-12T14:30:13Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Bumping for the announcement, that ABC has finally gotten off the pot and renewed for season 5. Not that I want the show to end, but I hope they just announce it will be the last season ahead of time. I want them to build to something final, instead of just hoping it will continue, ---
**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/248 "2017-05-12T15:13:40Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > We saw Yoyo alive at the end, but I wonder about Mack… > > Assuming Mack is still alive, I wouldn’t want them to print Hope. That would just seem wrong. And it’s like the start of a horror movie. > > Me, too. I agree with other posts that she will most likely be killed off next week, but it wouldn’t bother me if she comes back in one form or another. And to state the obvious, good lord she is gorgeous! SHIELD/Galavant mashup? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/249 "2017-05-12T15:35:25Z")
> [@howye](#): > > SHIELD/Galavant mashup? [Relevant song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXuM2LW79ao) ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/250 "2017-05-12T18:25:59Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Bumping for the announcement, that ABC has finally gotten off the pot and renewed for season 5. Yay for this! I always feel like this show is perennially on the bubble, and I always hold out hope it’s going to be renewed. Glad we can have it for another year! > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Not that I want the show to end, but I hope they just announce it will be the last season ahead of time. I want them to build to something final, instead of just hoping it will continue, I feel this way over pretty much every TV show. Playing the waiting game never helps anyone, if they can secure it enough in advance then they can have a REAL ending, which is always good. But let’s hope that doesn’t happen for another 3 or so years (the end of the MCU seems like a good end to this too, no?) ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/251 "2017-05-17T11:01:12Z")
Just saw the season finale. On the ending moments: Dafuq? How long have they been in space? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/252 "2017-05-17T12:07:54Z")
Why are you using a spoiler box? I assume the final scene is some time - weeks or months after the scene before it - the mysterious bald guy froze & kidnapped them, and they’ve been working in space since then. Presumably it will tie into the upcoming Inhuman series somehow. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/253 "2017-05-17T14:24:40Z")
Agents in Spaaaace > [@muldoonthief](#): > > Why are you using a spoiler box? > > I assume the final scene is some time - weeks or months after the scene before it - the mysterious bald guy froze & kidnapped them, and they’ve been working in space since then. Presumably it will tie into the upcoming Inhuman series somehow. Apparently next season will air after the 8-episode run of Inhumans, so we’ll see. I’m guessing lots of Thor/Guardians easter eggs. Anyway, I though the finale was great, but rushed. I loved Ghost Coulsen fighting with Aida, but I wish it had gone on longer. Radcliffe’s death was also really well done. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/254 "2017-05-17T14:39:17Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Agents in Spaaaace > > Apparently next season will air after the 8-episode run of Inhumans, so we’ll see. I’m guessing lots of Thor/Guardians easter eggs. I wasn’t even thinking of Thor, but you’re probably right. We know from past seasons that the AoS writers get access to the upcoming movies before they’re released. > [@](#): > > Anyway, I though the finale was great, but rushed. I loved Ghost Coulsen fighting with Aida, but I wish it had gone on longer. Radcliffe’s death was also really well done. To be honest, I thought the Framework plot was much more interesting and well done than the Ghost Rider/Aida plot. And where did Fitz get a Jemma LMD? She was the only agent who wasn’t LMD’d a few episodes ago. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/255 "2017-05-17T14:58:57Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > And where did Fitz get a Jemma LMD? She was the only agent who wasn’t LMD’d a few episodes ago. I’m guessing they already had one built and waiting, similar to the Daisy-bots. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/256 "2017-05-17T16:03:29Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I wasn’t even thinking of Thor, but you’re probably right. We know from past seasons that the AoS writers get access to the upcoming movies before they’re released. Well, Ragnarok will already be out before the next season. I big question will be if Infinity War ties in. It should be a fairly universe-shaking movie, and depending on when season 5 starts, will be out around the last few episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/257 "2017-05-17T16:28:57Z")
I liked that Radcliffe may have been the last person in the Framework. Kind of implies that Aida’s programming to protect him (which IIRC is what got him stuck there with no real-world body in the first place) was holding even as she was shutting the place down. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/258 "2017-05-17T17:42:35Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I wasn’t even thinking of Thor, but you’re probably right. We know from past seasons that the AoS writers get access to the upcoming movies before they’re released. Only if the easter eggs are those that are dyed one color. Since the first season, the call outs to the cinematic universe have been rather bland - pretty much just admitting that it exists. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/259 "2017-05-17T17:44:50Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Well, Ragnarok will already be out before the next season. I big question will be if Infinity War ties in. It should be a fairly universe-shaking movie, and depending on when season 5 starts, will be out around the last few episodes. True, but did they know that when they filmed the final scene? Ragnarok comes out Nov 3 - usually they’d be at episode 5 or 6 by then, just perfect for a decent length story arc. Doing an entire season in outer space just to tie into Infinity War in the last few episodes seems like a stretch. BTW, I thought the sendoff to Powers Boothe at the end was very nice. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/260 "2017-05-19T13:53:29Z")
Caught the episode last night. And, just as I said/feared, it ended up being Deus Ex Ghost Rider-na. Although I will say transferring the Spirit of Vengeance to Coulson, but not explaining why is a pretty good teaser. There was at least SOME tension in the show when you thought they killed arguably the two characters they absolutely cannot kill. I like that Radcliffe got his happy ending. I mean, he died and all, but it was calming and happy for him. As for next season, it took be a bit, but I eventually shouted “they’re going to the moon!” because of the Inhumans. I’m curious to see how they weave the Inhumans into this story without having the cast be, like, 500 people large. But I’m certainly looking forward to it! Here’s a negative: I love her character, but holy shit is Yo-Yo a bad actress when she’s trying to be emotional. I love how she is with Mack when they’re being sarcastic and quippy and she’s in control, but her teary-eyed scenes were just painful. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930.md?page=14)