# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D: LMD - Season 4 thread (Open Spoilers for aired episodes) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 12, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930 "2017-01-12T02:31:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/261 "2017-05-19T13:57:43Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > BTW, I thought the sendoff to Powers Boothe at the end was very nice. I didn’t catch that. What did they do? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/262 "2017-05-19T14:07:58Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > I didn’t catch that. What did they do? They had a white lettering on a black screen that said “Dedicated to our friend Powers Boothe” Or something to that effect ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/263 "2017-05-19T15:02:28Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > [Relevant song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXuM2LW79ao) and she could do a duet with Jemma - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-c6IFBByeI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-c6IFBByeI) ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/264 "2017-05-19T16:55:33Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Caught the episode last night. And, just as I said/feared, it ended up being Deus Ex Ghost Rider-na. Although I will say transferring the Spirit of Vengeance to Coulson, but not explaining why is a pretty good teaser. They did explain why: because the Demon could kill Ophelia, but she was keeping her distance from Robbie, so they needed to catch her by surprise. There’s even precedent from earlier in the season, when the Demon jumped into Mack’s body. What they _didn’t_ explain, compared to when the Demon possessed Mack, was why it could possess Coulson. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/265 "2017-05-19T17:25:50Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > They did explain why: because the Demon could kill Ophelia, but she was keeping her distance from Robbie, so they needed to catch her by surprise. There’s even precedent from earlier in the season, when the Demon jumped into Mack’s body. What they _didn’t_ explain, compared to when the Demon possessed Mack, was why it could possess Coulson. ahh - but they did - since there is now some form of pact between Coulson and the Demon - it was briefly mentioned afterwards in a line or two between Coulson and Robbie. [QUOTE=['Agents of SHIELD' Recap: Season 4 Finale — Ghost Rider vs. Aida](http://tvline.com/2017/05/16/agents-of-shield-recap-season-4-finale-coulson-outer-space/)] Robbie then returns to his… whatever, but not before exchanging cryptic words with Coulson about why the Ghost Rider made the “deal” that allowed Coulson to serve as a temporary host. “I don’t envy you,” Robbie said to Phil before leaving, making May curious. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/266 "2017-05-19T18:56:25Z")
> [@simster](#): > > ahh - but they did - since there is now some form of pact between Coulson and the Demon - it was briefly mentioned afterwards in a line or two between Coulson and Robbie. That’s the bit I was referencing. I like that tease and I’m interested in why ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/267 "2017-05-19T19:24:36Z")
Yeah I suspect they put them in space to make it easier to tie into the next Avengers which I expect to take place off earth (at least a big chunk of it). ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/268 "2017-05-20T00:49:47Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > That’s the bit I was referencing. I like that tease and I’m interested in why It was shown in the first minute of the episode. When Robbie starts up the GhostCar as the camera pans past him they show Mack’s face. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/269 "2017-05-20T01:43:31Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Yeah I suspect they put them in space to make it easier to tie into the next Avengers which I expect to take place off earth (at least a big chunk of it). Agents will be returning in early to mid November, as I recall. First they’ll do the Inhumans miniseries, anyway. That puts it shortly after the _Thor_ première. I expect SHIELD to cross over with that, not Avengers. ---
**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/270 "2017-05-23T12:16:43Z")
So maybe I missed it. What happened to the Russian bots and his brain? He said he could make unlimited copies of himself? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/271 "2017-05-23T14:11:00Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > It was shown in the first minute of the episode. When Robbie starts up the GhostCar as the camera pans past him they show Mack’s face. I’m still not getting it. Can you explain a bit more? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/272 "2017-05-23T14:36:56Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > I’m still not getting it. Can you explain a bit more? I wasn’t very clear, was I. In the first shot of Ghost Rider they put a subtle reminder that the Spirit of Vengeance can jump bodies, foreshadowing the jump into Coulson later in the episode. I just caught something odd and went back to rewatch it slowed down to make sure I saw it. I’m not sure it makes narrative sense (why would the body suddenly look like Mack, who was still in the Framework at that time), but it works on a meta-storytelling level. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/273 "2017-05-23T14:48:36Z")
> [@BrianJ](#): > > So maybe I missed it. What happened to the Russian bots and his brain? Definitely a loose end, we never learned where his head ended up or what resources he still has access to. Presumably he has access to LMD manufacturing but maybe not the ability to program the brains to act independently, but it seems he personally can control a large number of LMDs simultaneously. We also have open questions about Talbot in a coma, fallout from the propaganda campaign against SHIELD, will we get a new director, what happens with Coulson/May and FitzSimmons. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/274 "2017-05-23T15:04:55Z")
I hope Talbot doesn’t die/retire/otherwise leave the show. He’s a fun character. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/275 "2017-05-23T15:12:13Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > I wasn’t very clear, was I. In the first shot of Ghost Rider they put a subtle reminder that the Spirit of Vengeance can jump bodies, foreshadowing the jump into Coulson later in the episode. I just caught something odd and went back to rewatch it slowed down to make sure I saw it. I’m not sure it makes narrative sense (why would the body suddenly look like Mack, who was still in the Framework at that time), but it works on a meta-storytelling level. Ohhh ok. I get it now. I thought you were saying that because they showed Mack, the reason Coulson gave had something to do with him. But it was a reminder to the audience that “hey, this is possible don’t forget.” ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/276 "2017-05-25T22:29:12Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Here’s a negative: I love her character, but holy shit is Yo-Yo a bad actress when she’s trying to be emotional. I love how she is with Mack when they’re being sarcastic and quippy and she’s in control, but her teary-eyed scenes were just painful. Finally watched the finale - the whole Yo-Yo plot pissed me off. If you’ve ever wanted me to not like a character - that’s how you do it. I’m not a hardcore shipper type person, but I do tend to like that element of television shows. This particular show makes consistently bad choices in that area. (Not just the “who” but the “how” and “why” and “when”)- there were several examples of that in the finale. Still, it was fun. Looking forward to next season. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/277 "2017-05-27T01:06:01Z")
Did anyone else get the idea that the Russian dude is now MODOK? He’s a disembodied brain controlling a robot and he told Aida that he was “Designed Only for Killing…” ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/278 "2017-05-27T04:45:29Z")
The next season of SHIELD will begin in January of 2018 and will run all 22 episodes without a break. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/279 "2017-05-27T14:34:51Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Did anyone else get the idea that the Russian dude is now MODOK? He’s a disembodied brain controlling a robot and he told Aida that he was “Designed Only for Killing…” You know, that makes a lot of sense. I’ll miss the flying chair the one in the comics rides, though. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/280 "2017-05-28T15:58:31Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Did anyone else get the idea that the Russian dude is now MODOK? He’s a disembodied brain controlling a robot and he told Aida that he was “Designed Only for Killing…” I did catch that callout, but IIRC, he said ‘this body is designed only for killing’, which is somewhat opposite to MODOK, who’s after all a Mental Organism (as opposed to a body). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930.md?page=13)