# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D: LMD - Season 4 thread (Open Spoilers for aired episodes) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 12, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930 "2017-01-12T02:31:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/141 "2017-04-07T18:07:25Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > " > > Also, I might adopt the angry open-palm gesture for real life situations. Whenever \*I \*do that, I _am_ trying to invoke my earth-shaking powers… ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/142 "2017-04-07T19:03:24Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Whenever \*I \*do that, I _am_ trying to invoke my earth-shaking powers… Anyone want to take bets on whether Daisy goes through terragenisis in the Framework so she can use her powers? We know she carries the Inhuman genes (Ward hid her test results) so why not have her change over and become Quake in-game? Also, doesn’t Aida have absolute power in the Framework? Why doesn’t she just magically remove Jemma and Daisy? The Hydra-Cop typing in Jemma’s name correctly after only hearing it once seemed unrealistic. I would have tried several different spellings before trying the correct one. Who else do we know is in the Framework? We’ve seen Coulson, Fitz, May, and saw Mack briefly in the last episode. We haven’t yet seen Mace, Radcliffe, or the woman Aida was patterned after. ---
**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/143 "2017-04-07T19:29:51Z")
So, anyone know why this show is not on CTV anymore, and where we can see it in Canada? I’m talking about the website, not the tv… I dont watch scheduled tv anymore. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/144 "2017-04-07T20:02:40Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > We know she carries the Inhuman genes (Ward hid her test results) so why not have her change over and become Quake in-game? She doesn’t get the terragenisis skill until level 20. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/145 "2017-04-08T01:13:29Z")
She’ll have to kill a lot of boars for that. Maybe she should move to Framework-Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/146 "2017-04-08T14:17:07Z")
Just watched it today and agree with just about everyone else, fun episode! I’m really glad that I came back to this show this season and gave it another shot. I really enjoyed the first two arcs and I think I’m going to like this one too. Three geeky things: • - It would have been a cool Marvel geek thing, if Aida had her hair covering up one of her eyes to make he look like Viper (Madam Hydra) from the comics. • - If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Clark Gregg always do the voiceover for “S.H.E.I.L.D. will return after this” break at the end? On this episode Chloe Bennet said it. Kind of sticking to the “Agents of Hydra” theme • - Nice touch with the “In memory of” shout out to Bill Paxton at the end. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/147 "2017-04-08T14:21:07Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > But they know this “world” is all an illusion. Their reaction to every weird little thing should be “yeah, sure, whatever.” There’s literally no point to being shocked by any of it. But it’s so completely real-looking that it fools people who haven’t been told it’s fake, plus Skye had the immediate shock of seeing Ward in her bed. I can see where that would rattle her. Heck, people using those VR goggles can get totally immersed into a crappy simulation that only affects two senses - why not a directly-in-your-brain-impossible-to-distinguish one? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/148 "2017-04-09T06:53:36Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > I really liked the episode because ultimately I was entertained but I was thinking the same thing. I could have tolerated an initial error while maybe she was getting adjusted to it. But she kept making error after error after error. It was really silly. That’s very typically Daisy/Skye, though. Despite the fact that the writers love her, she’s pretty much the worst agent ever. I didn’t not like it - I’m just having a hard time getting invested in it. Because it’s essentially a dream, it doesn’t feel like it has any stakes. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/149 "2017-04-09T11:18:50Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I didn’t not like it - I’m just having a hard time getting invested in it. Because it’s essentially a dream, it doesn’t feel like it has any stakes. It reminds me of a holding pattern - they don’t know what directions the movies will take, so they can’t get too invested in storylines that may create contradictions. They’re already on shaky ground by establishing SHIELD as a restored and publicly-known agency (with Jeffrey Mace as its public face) that openly conducts operations like rescuing hostages and such, after the spectacular disbanding in _Winter Soldier_. It’s rather like DC Comic’s version of _Star Trek_, published in the 1980s just after the second film. They’d also have to incorporate elements from the movies as they were released, so to play it safe the characters spent an extended arc in the evil “mirror universe”, where they could explore storylines at length without trapping themselves in any corners. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/150 "2017-04-09T11:33:39Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > That’s very typically Daisy/Skye, though. Despite the fact that the writers love her, she’s pretty much the worst agent ever. She’s good at bashing heads; less good at subtlety. But then, she’s a superhero. Superheroes don’t do subtle. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/151 "2017-04-09T11:57:36Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > She’s good at bashing heads; less good at subtlety. But then, she’s a superhero. Superheroes don’t do subtle. They learn that from Superman. He has a virtual Swiss Army knife of abilities, yet when faced with a problem his first act is to punch it real hard. If that doesn’t work, he punches it harder. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/152 "2017-04-09T12:02:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > She’s good at bashing heads; less good at subtlety. But then, she’s a superhero. Superheroes don’t do subtle. Clearly you never read Grant Morrison’s _Nuance-Man._ ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/153 "2017-04-09T12:25:18Z")
I can understand Daisy’s confusion about her situation but c’mon, quit acting so confused and shocked. Same goes for Jemma, though I liked her acting better. I like how her character has evolved beyond just a brainy science nerd. Fitz was less convincing as a big scary “The Doctor.” Oh no!, don’t take me to The Doctor, anything but that! Nooooo! I’ll talk, I’ll talk! Oh, it’s just Fitz. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/154 "2017-04-09T13:13:19Z")
Cut Daisy some slack - I think we’re forgetting how important S.H.I.E.L.D is to her. It’s the only family she knows, the cornerstone of her self-identity, and undermining it is a major psychological blow. She probably feels like her entire world is crumbling beneath her feet. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/155 "2017-04-10T13:53:29Z")
Caught up a bit late, but what got me the most is Jemma and Daisy’s immediate “oh you’re from my world! Don’t you remember me? Let’s go!” and assuming it’d work. If it was that easy, then you wouldn’t need to blend in at all! Then again, my thought process could be skewed because I made the mistake of watching the rest of American Horror Story: Roanoake, and after 6 episodes of that my logic meter was going crazy. Very intrigued at the story though and looking forward to this season’s second half. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/156 "2017-04-10T14:19:15Z")
Where’s Mac? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/157 "2017-04-10T15:24:40Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Where’s Mac? They showed Mack at the end of the previous episode. He wasn’t in this one but his story will be picked up again in tomorrow’s episode. As seen before the mid-season break, he’s living a quiet suburban life with his daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/158 "2017-04-10T15:26:23Z")
Another quick thing: I think it’s a bit unfortunate that the first one who seems to be turning is Coulson. Inevitably leading to him waking up and, again, being the ringmaster for everything. I was kinda hoping he would be the last one to turn, or maybe not at all, in order to let the other people shine. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/159 "2017-04-10T20:15:42Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > They showed Mack at the end of the previous episode. He wasn’t in this one but his story will be picked up again in tomorrow’s episode. As seen before the mid-season break, he’s living a quiet suburban life with his daughter. Oh, right. Thanks for the reminder. It just seemed odd we saw everyone in this episode except him. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930/160 "2017-04-10T20:28:09Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Oh, right. Thanks for the reminder. It just seemed odd we saw everyone in this episode except him. We didn’t see Mace or Radcliffe either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-lmd-season-4-thread-open-spoilers-for-aired-episodes/776930.md?page=9)