# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S01E03: The Asset (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743 "2013-10-09T02:49:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/121 "2013-10-15T03:16:29Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > If one is killed off, it won’t be because of the accents. It will be because they have two. And one is a pretty girl. So sorry Fitz, your death is nigh. You must be joking! This is a Whedon show, remember? He kills off pretty women for sport! ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/122 "2013-10-15T12:21:24Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > You must be joking! This is a Whedon show, remember? He kills off pretty women for sport! “As pretty women to Joss Whedon are we to the gods” ? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/123 "2013-10-15T12:59:24Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The fight scenes are lame beyond belief. Extreme examples of the meme where the bad guys are constrained to attack the hero one at a time, and not try to use their sidearms to shoot him, but fight hand-to-hand until knocked into a swimming pool, which instantly disables them. This bothered me too. I said to my Good Lady Wife “Hey, aren’t those guys he knocked unconscious into the pool, you know, _drowning_ now?” > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > There wasn’t a lot about the show itself in it, but there was an interview with Whedon, and he did mention that everybody in the show has a secret. I’d be more stunned if anyone didn’t on a show like this. It’s practically a requirement. ---
**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/124 "2013-10-15T14:09:36Z")
The fighting is no more unrealistic than other TV stuff. Medical shows, for example. And even in Malta, shooting some dude results in hassles, it’s not your ‘go-to response’. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/125 "2013-10-15T14:54:57Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] You must be joking! This is a Whedon show, remember? He kills off pretty women for sport! [/QUOTE] Excluding Big Bads, I think it’s pretty even… **Mod note:** Spoiler list of deaths of characters in Joss Whedon shows. Jesse Principal Flutie Darla Buffy (she got better) Jenny Calendar Angel (he got better) Principal Snyder Doyle Forrest Holland Manners Joyce Summers Buffy, again (she got better) Darla, again Tara Lilah Jonathan Anya Spike (he got better) Cordelia Fred (technically) Lindsey Wesley Shepherd Book Wash November Topher Ballard Coulson (he got better) 16 men versus 11 women ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/126 "2013-10-15T15:49:53Z")
Good list, but you forgot Halfrek, Cassie, Molly, Amanda, and several other Potentials, which makes it even more even. 😛 It still is more like Joss to kill off the female part of a duo. More angst that way. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/127 "2013-10-15T15:56:53Z")
Look, please use spoiler tags for this kind of thing. Not everyone watching SHIELD has watched every Joss Whedon show yet. (Though they should. :p) ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/128 "2013-10-15T16:17:27Z")
You know, we just tried _Arrow_ since Season 1 is on Netflix now. And it’s such a more charming show in pretty much every regard. And it isn’t even that great or that smart a show. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/129 "2013-10-15T16:28:53Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > Look, please use spoiler tags for this kind of thing. Not everyone watching SHIELD has watched every Joss Whedon show yet. (Though they should. :p) The show was over **11 years** ago. At what point do we stop worrying about spoilers? Besides, they were minor characters in the last season, not co-stars from Day One. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/130 "2013-10-15T17:05:56Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Fine, then keep her and change her specialty to _SCIENCE!!!_ --then kill Fitz. Quickly and messily so there’s no DNA for clones later. Don’t you have to kill someone _neatly_ to make sure there’s no DNA for clones? Killing someone _messily_ gets DNA _everywhere_. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/131 "2013-10-15T17:15:02Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > . . . Why is NOW the first time he’s noticing this? > > Very odd for me. Surely they have some sort of fitness tests or ability checks before approving someone for active duty again. If so, maybe he didn’t get those tests or checks, because they would have revealed something that wasn’t supposed to be known. . . Or maybe he’s noticed before and he’s only explaining because there was someone there who was noticing. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/132 "2013-10-15T17:22:18Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Good list, but you forgot Halfrek, Cassie, Molly, Amanda, and several other Potentials, which makes it even more even. 😛 I only included major regular or recurring characters. Halfrek, Cassie, Molly, Amanda, and several other Potentials …all appeared in a single episode each. Some of them don’t even have names. But you’re right, I did forget one… Kendra 16-12 ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/133 "2013-10-15T20:53:00Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Don’t you have to kill someone _neatly_ to make sure there’s no DNA for clones? Killing someone _messily_ gets DNA _everywhere_. I assume flinging his corpse into the sun counts as “messy”. YMMV. 😉 😃 ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/134 "2013-10-15T21:21:21Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > You know, we just tried _Arrow_ since Season 1 is on Netflix now. And it’s such a more charming show in pretty much every regard. And it isn’t even that great or that smart a show. _Arrow_ excels in action sequences - the fight choreography is about the best on tv right now (even _Person of Interest_), and saves it from the clangers in other areas. The new season is starting on a bad note, imo, with his vow to stop killing criminals. The fight Ward had with the henchman made me think Whedon uses the same stunt people as much as he does actors - the whole “somersault into the pool/ground” bit goes back to Buffy. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/135 "2013-10-15T21:25:40Z")
Haven’t watched the episode yet; just wanted to stop in and say “holy crap, Ming-na Wen is 50…” ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/136 "2013-10-16T00:17:07Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The show was over **11 years** ago. At what point do we stop worrying about spoilers? Why would we ever stop worrying about spoilers? I’ve never seen (for instance) **The Deer Hunter** , a movie from well over 20 years ago. If I was reading a thread about something else that Christopher Walken was in and someone just randomly posted in that thread “hey, that scene was even better than that crazy twist ending where it turned out he was dead all along in **The Deer Hunter** ”, that would be a spoiler, and a needlessly dickish one. How much does it cost you to use a spoiler box? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/137 "2013-10-16T00:22:01Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Why would we ever stop worrying about spoilers? I’ve never seen (for instance) **The Deer Hunter** , a movie from well over 20 years ago. If I was reading a thread about something else that Christopher Walken was in and someone just randomly posted in that thread “hey, that scene was even better than that crazy twist ending where it turned out he was dead all along in **The Deer Hunter** ”, that would be a spoiler, and a needlessly dickish one. > > How much does it cost you to use a spoiler box? Yeah; not gonna happen. 11 years?! I mean, I’ll do my best, but you know, Old Yeller dies, dude. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/138 "2013-10-16T00:42:22Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Haven’t watched the episode yet; just wanted to stop in and say “holy crap, Ming-na Wen is 50…” I’ll be glad when she hits 51, so people can stop being amazed she’s not a decrepit hag at 50. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/139 "2013-10-16T01:27:06Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > I’ll be glad when she hits 51, so people can stop being amazed she’s not a decrepit hag at 50. 🙂 Oh, good point… she was born in November, so she’s actually only 49. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743/140 "2013-10-16T10:03:19Z")
Mmmh— I’m going to say that the rising tide = water = Hydra thing is a fake-out by Whedon to make internet guys speculate. So when we expect Skye in the final episode of the season to be unveiled as Madame Hydra in a typical plot twist, it will turn out that it was either Ming-Na Wen or the British scientist chick all along. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e03-the-asset-spoilers/670743.md?page=8)