# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S01E05: Girl in the Flower Dress **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 23, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994 "2013-10-23T02:02:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/41 "2013-10-24T18:37:09Z")
We are so bored around here that this means war! ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/42 "2013-10-24T18:53:32Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I thought he called it a board game, but I may have heard it wrong. OK, complaint retracted. I double-checked on my TiVo, and you’re right, it is indeed boardgames. Still… I can think of a few dozen boardgames more suitable to evaluate a student’s thought processes. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/43 "2013-10-24T19:11:14Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > OK, complaint retracted. I double-checked on my TiVo, and you’re right, it is indeed boardgames. Still… I can think of a few dozen boardgames more suitable to evaluate a student’s thought processes. I don’t know, just off-hand: 1. Does your opponent when confronted with a blank board start a search pattern or stab randomly? 2. When an initial hit is made, do they follow up to destroy that ship or keep searching for the others? 3. What happens when confronted with unusual or suboptimal ship placement?\* 4. How do they configure their own ships? All of those things will give you insight into their thought processes. - I once irritated the hell out of my daughter by putting my carrier and battleship in a straight line, she hit one and after figuring out the direction starting moving down the line, when she got 6 hits in a line with nothing being sunk, she accused me of cheating (3 on the carrier, 3 on the battleship IIRC). It never occurred to her that I would do what I did. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/44 "2013-10-24T19:21:26Z")
My favorite line was boyfriend: “Skye, you’re not Seal Team 6” Skye: “No, but he is.” ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/45 "2013-10-24T19:57:16Z")
I just can’t imagine that Coulson wouldn’t have known all that crap on the chip. Do they not do even the most basic of background checks on new hires? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/46 "2013-10-24T21:04:24Z")
> [@The Severed Head of Prof. P](#): > > She had to die to show that the new female badass is so badass she not only doesn’t care about the test subjects, but her co-workers as well. It’s a new level in self-absorbedness that shows us there is no one nowhere who can trust her. It was also implied that whatever mysterious organization this was had already decided to eliminate the scientist (based on something Raina said to the guy in prison). Presumably her part of the project was done and she was a loose end to be disposed of. Raina was probably planning on killing her before they left the building but then saw the opportunity to let Scorch do it for her. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/47 "2013-10-24T21:08:00Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I just can’t imagine that Coulson wouldn’t have known all that crap on the chip. Do they not do even the most basic of background checks on new hires? It was said in earlier episodes that Skye deliberately wiped all records of her past out of any files. So Shield presumably checked her background and found nothing beyond the deletions - which they accounted for by their knowledge that Skye had deleted them. Their mistake would have been to assume what was deleted was a typical childhood rather than another level of mystery. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/48 "2013-10-24T22:05:46Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > OK, complaint retracted. I double-checked on my TiVo, and you’re right, it is indeed boardgames. Still… I can think of a few dozen boardgames more suitable to evaluate a student’s thought processes. yeah, but if they’d been playing Agricola or Puerto Rico or Magic: The Gathering most people wouldn’t have had any idea what the hell was going on. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/49 "2013-10-24T23:57:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It was said in earlier episodes that Skye deliberately wiped all records of her past out of any files. So Shield presumably checked her background and found nothing beyond the deletions - which they accounted for by their knowledge that Skye had deleted them. Their mistake would have been to assume what was deleted was a typical childhood rather than another level of mystery. the redacted info on the card was a Shield document - so that means either Coulson didn’t have top level access, was on a need-to-know level of access, or it was a plot hole. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/50 "2013-10-25T00:19:03Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > the redacted info on the card was a Shield document - so that means either Coulson didn’t have top level access, was on a need-to-know level of access, or it was a plot hole. My guess was that the connection wasn’t made. Shield knows there’s a women named Skye working on Phil Coulson’s team. And Shield would have done a background check and found that Skye had deleted all her public records. At the same time, Shield has records that years ago there was a young girl named Mary Smith or whatever had been placed in an orphanage at a young age. And presumably somewhere in Shield records, there’s a file explaining Shield’s involvement in Mary Smith’s case. But until Skye pulled out Mary Smith’s orphanage letter and said “That’s me” Shield had no reason to connect Skye with Mary Smith. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/51 "2013-10-25T00:21:05Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > yeah, but if they’d been playing Agricola or Puerto Rico or Magic: The Gathering most people wouldn’t have had any idea what the hell was going on. If they had used Settlers of Catan, they could have brought the “I’ve got wood for sheep” joke into the mainstream. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/52 "2013-10-25T03:36:05Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Except the Law of Economy of Characters is more about a movie where a story has to be told in 2 hours. You don’t have time or opportunity to develop characters like you could in a long running series. The story of Skye’s parents could conceivably be slowly developed into a story arc set in the 3rd season or something along those lines. You’ve given me hope. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/53 "2013-10-25T04:01:24Z")
> [@Albert\_Rose](#): > > You’ve given me hope. AC -\> No, Skye - I am your father - join me and we can defeat HydrAim and rule S.H.E.I.L.D as father and hacker daughter! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/54 "2013-10-25T07:34:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My guess was that the connection wasn’t made. Shield knows there’s a women named Skye working on Phil Coulson’s team. And Shield would have done a background check and found that Skye had deleted all her public records. > > At the same time, Shield has records that years ago there was a young girl named Mary Smith or whatever had been placed in an orphanage at a young age. And presumably somewhere in Shield records, there’s a file explaining Shield’s involvement in Mary Smith’s case. > > But until Skye pulled out Mary Smith’s orphanage letter and said “That’s me” Shield had no reason to connect Skye with Mary Smith. What a great explanation. Skye’s surname has never been revealed. On the other hand, if she were Skye McGee and the orphanage letter referenced one Perky “Bewbz” McGee, then of course I don’t see how anyone could not associate the two. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/55 "2013-10-25T08:16:02Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > On the other hand, if she were Skye McGee and the orphanage letter referenced one Perky “Bewbz” McGee, then of course I don’t see how anyone could not associate the two. Especially now that we’ve seen her in her underwear. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/56 "2013-10-25T09:33:32Z")
which she kept on during sex. together with her memory card which did not fall out. oh yeah, those curly laces aren’t going to distract me from my nitpicks. nope. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/57 "2013-10-25T10:13:05Z")
Speaking of Chloe Bennet (aka Chloe Wang) here’s a [video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnXLAwTSyQ) about her earlier career as a pop star in China. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/58 "2013-10-25T11:22:19Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > the redacted info on the card was a Shield document - so that means either Coulson didn’t have top level access, was on a need-to-know level of access, or it was a plot hole. Or he knew all along, and just had to get her to admit it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/59 "2013-10-25T12:26:01Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > yeah, but if they’d been playing Agricola or Puerto Rico or Magic: The Gathering most people wouldn’t have had any idea what the hell was going on. I know, I know, insert lament for the state of American board game culture here. But at least Risk, no? Chess? Go? Poker? Something people over age 12 actually play? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994/60 "2013-10-25T12:42:01Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > which she kept on during sex. together with her memory card which did not fall out. oh yeah, those curly laces aren’t going to distract me from my nitpicks. nope. She was putting her bra on after the sexy times, and it’s probably got a little pocket in it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e05-girl-in-the-flower-dress/671994.md?page=4)