# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S01E07: The Hub (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 13, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e07-the-hub-open-spoilers/673787 "2013-11-13T04:03:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e07-the-hub-open-spoilers/673787/81 "2013-11-17T19:45:32Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> More spoilers for Iron Man 3:I’d say the opposite. It makes more sense if we assume Iron Man 3 took place before Thor 2. The ending of Iron Man 3 had Stark quitting as Iron Man and demolishing all his suits. Obviously he wasn’t going to be much help as an unarmored civilian.

was exactly my thought - Thor 2 clearly takes place after Avengers, likely after IM3 - Sheild is after Avengers and also after IM3 (or they wouldn’t be calling it ‘extremis’)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e07-the-hub-open-spoilers/673787/82 "2013-11-17T23:52:57Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I bet **Bozuit** doesn’t like Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups, either! 😃

“You got your pesto in my aioli!”

I thought the episode was okay. I also think the show is getting better. I’m still in for now.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e07-the-hub-open-spoilers/673787/83 "2013-11-18T00:08:38Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> **Re: Movie/T.V. Show Continuity**
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> Since, **AK84** raised concerns about movie spoilers, I’ll spoiler tag this- referencing both _Iron Man 3_ and _Thor 2_.
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> [SPOILER]O.K., this detail just struck me as I rewatched _Iron Man 3_.  
> _Iron Man 3_ was released in the summer, but _it takes place_ during December. Which December?
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> _Thor 2_ tells us that the movies take place _roughly_ in real time with our own calendar: the first Thor movie was two years ago, Jane says she hasn’t seen Thor in two years.
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> _Iron Man 3_ was released before the debut of _Agents of SHIELD_, but in what December does it take place? Does it take place in the December immediately following the attack on New York (i.e. the movie was released 6 months “late”) or does it take place the following December (i.e. the movie was released 6 months “early”?)
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> We find Extremis in both _Iron Man 3_ and _Agents of SHIELD_. Coulson says that it’s “new”. Does he know about it because SHIELD knows all about Stark’s battle with AIM? Or, in the T.V. show, are we seeing Extremis _before_ Killian approaches Pepper about backing the project?
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> Killian’s Extremis serum seemed more advanced than what we’ve seen on the T.V. show. Is that because the T.V. show is showing us AIM building up to an improved version of the serum? Or was Killian’s Extremis more advanced but his research was lost after defeat at the hands of Stark . . . and the Extremis we’ve seen on the T.V. show is the work of a less talented organization trying to piece it back together after Killian’s project was shut down?
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> 😕  
> [/SPOILER]

Didn’t they say in IM3 how long Tony spent building all those… things… that showed up at the end of the movie? Six months to a year? That’s a good chunk of time to advance the clock.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e07-the-hub-open-spoilers/673787/84 "2013-11-18T16:19:39Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Didn’t they say in IM3 how long Tony spent building all those… things… that showed up at the end of the movie? Six months to a year? That’s a good chunk of time to advance the clock.

He specifically states that “its been 6 months - I’m still having nightmares” and the implication is that he’s downstairs fabbing instead of either sleeping or getting therapy. He jumps from a Mark 7 suit to a 40something in 6 months, with a plethora of other variations that address different types of threats.

Avengers looks to be set in late spring to early summer judging by what people on the streets are wearing right before they get invaded. IM3 has a Christmas. Makes sense for that to be within the same year.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e07-the-hub-open-spoilers/673787/85 "2013-11-18T16:40:23Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> He specifically states that “its been 6 months - I’m still having nightmares”

Ah, that settles it then. I rewatched specifically to hear if there’s mention of a timeframe since New York, then I guess I blanked out on the purpose of the rewatching because that line blew past me with my registering it.

So, yeah. Tony brought down Killian’s Extremis project before the SHIELD T.V. show uncovers a _new_ Extremis program. I’d say that AIM can not be the Big Bad that the show is building to uncover, though. In this shared universe, AIM was the public face of Killian’s organization- it wasn’t a secret organization. They even had contracts with the U.S. Government. So, whoever the Big Bad is on the T.V. show, it isn’t going to be AIM.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e07-the-hub-open-spoilers/673787/86 "2013-11-18T18:33:40Z")

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I’m pretty sure the Big Bad that will be revealed in time will be S.H.I.E.L.D.

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