# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S01E19: The Only Light in the Darkness (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 23, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730 "2014-04-23T02:01:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/41 "2014-04-24T04:24:55Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > Oh, almost forgot: **Amy Acker!!!** YAY! > > Of course she had to show up eventually. 🙂 Not a super-meaty role, yet, but maybe she’ll be back. It would be nice to have a recurring character who _isn’t_ SHIELD. Or maybe she’ll be recruited. You never know when a mission will call for a cellist, if only for backing score for the badassery of the rest of the team… I know Acker is part of Whedon’s regular crew. But it would have been more apt if they had cast Jennifer Grey in the role. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/42 "2014-04-24T04:26:33Z")
What’s weird is how Ward seemingly thinks Skye is buying his story when everything about her acting says “Aaaaaah! Murderer!” Ward: “Let’s hold hands. We’re in wuv.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/43 "2014-04-24T04:48:28Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > What’s weird is how Ward seemingly thinks Skye is buying his story when everything about her acting says “Aaaaaah! Murderer!” > > Ward: “Let’s hold hands. We’re in wuv.” It might be one of those “I know and you know but do you know I know” situations. Skye knows Ward is Hydra. Based on the way she’s acting, Ward probably knows Skye knows. But if Ward tells Skye he knows she knows, she’d panic and then he’d have to knock her out and carry her to the plane and figure out how to get the password from her. Instead, by pretending he’s fooled, he keeps her co-operative. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/44 "2014-04-24T04:59:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It occurred to me that Skye must almost certainly believe Ward killed May. He told her this implausible (albeit actually true) story about May suddenly deciding to quit SHIELD and leaving without saying good-bye. Sky found that surprising even at the time. But then she found out Ward killed Koening and hid the body. So the obvious assumption would be that he did the same thing to May. She must have been wondering why she hadn’t been killed also until she realized Ward needs her alive until he gets the password. Except - May’s body, nor lanyard - is on the base. Ward doesn’t know that the lanyards are trackable. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/45 "2014-04-24T07:07:19Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > Oh, almost forgot: **Amy Acker!!!** YAY! > > Of course she had to show up eventually. 🙂 Not a super-meaty role, yet, but maybe she’ll be back. It would be nice to have a recurring character who _isn’t_ SHIELD. Or maybe she’ll be recruited. You never know when a mission will call for a cellist, if only for backing score for the badassery of the rest of the team… Maybe she gets super powers from having the power sucking stalker explode over her. All that energy has to go somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/46 "2014-04-24T07:12:20Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Maybe she gets super powers from having the power sucking stalker explode over her. All that energy has to go somewhere. Meh. It was dark energy. She’ll go with a Goth look and start playing death metal on the cello. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/47 "2014-04-24T12:00:15Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Except - May’s body, nor lanyard - is on the base. Ward doesn’t know that the lanyards are trackable. Exactly. Skye could see that Mae was gone from the base, which is plausible enough to be accepted at face value. She would have shown up on the Marauders Map if she was still there. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/48 "2014-04-24T12:25:41Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Meh. It was dark energy. She’ll go with a Goth look and start playing death metal on the cello. We need to get you on their writing team right now. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/49 "2014-04-24T12:41:18Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Meh. It was dark energy. She’ll go with a Goth look and start playing death metal on the cello. Illyria returns as a musician? I’m onboard. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/50 "2014-04-24T13:08:40Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > Illyria returns as a musician? I’m onboard. That’s what I was thinking! ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/51 "2014-04-24T13:15:03Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > Illyria returns as a musician? I’m onboard. Not me, one of the worst plot points in Angel. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/52 "2014-04-24T13:39:12Z")
I think you mean “That’s when _Ange_l redeemed itself for the disaster that was Season 4.” I can totally see this. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/53 "2014-04-24T13:50:06Z")
Am I the only one who thinks that both Seasons 4 and 5 of \*Angel \*were awesome? ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/54 "2014-04-24T13:50:40Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Meh. It was dark energy. She’ll go with a Goth look and start playing death metal on the cello. starting a letter-writing campaign to get Apocalyptica on the show now… ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/55 "2014-04-24T13:51:57Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Am I the only one who thinks that both Seasons 4 and 5 of \*Angel \*were awesome? Nope. Count my wife and I in your club. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/56 "2014-04-24T14:08:25Z")
I enjoyed the episode more that I was expecting. Skye has become a compelling character. Ward is kind of dull. I agreed that the Simmons comments about lying a few weeks ago pointed to a possible mole situation, but I dismiss that for meta-story reasons. It would be awful to have a Skye-Ward lovey-dovey Romeo and Juliet situation repeated with Fitz-Simmons. Boring! I liked _The Joy Luck Club_ reunion at the end. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/57 "2014-04-24T14:11:19Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > Nope. Count my wife and I in your club. simFamily as well - ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/58 "2014-04-24T14:50:17Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Maybe she gets super powers from having the power sucking stalker explode over her. All that energy has to go somewhere. Traditionally in the comics, dark force energy is drawn from the dark force dimension, and characters with dark force superpowers have a tendency to disappear into the dark force dimension as a means of writing them out of a storyline. They then reappear randomly later at the need of subsequent storylines. Blackout, in particular, seems to have had that happen to him rather a lot. So mark him down as “comic book dead”, rather than “pining for the fjords.” ---
**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/59 "2014-04-24T15:02:51Z")
> [@Sean\_Factotum](#): > > I saw what you did there, and I’m not sure I like it. 😃 > > As much as I like the theory that Simmons may be another HYDRA mole, I also think that her turn on the lie (almost-) detector kills that one. > > I’m betting that Mae’s mom had worked (she said she was retired, but still had contacts) at NSA or CIA. I don’t think too many other agencies would be able to figure out where Hill worked, even though she hasn’t gone off the grid like Fury has. Well, she drove 500 miles\* to get to walking distance from the bunker. That could be Michigan, or it could be Ottawa. Maybe she’s RCMP. Is there something more Marvell-y that she could be? (\*And now she’ll drive 500 more, just to BE the mom who drove a thousand MILES to be shot down by agent Ward.\*\*) (\*\*Yeah, the meter sucks.) ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730/60 "2014-04-24T15:13:36Z")
> [@vd](#): > > Well, she drove 500 miles\* to get to walking distance from the bunker. That could be Michigan, or it could be Ottawa. Maybe she’s RCMP. > > Is there something more Marvell-y that she could be? > > (\*And now she’ll drive 500 more, just to BE the mom who drove a thousand MILES to be shot down by agent Ward.\*\*) > (\*\*Yeah, the meter sucks.) She had Pennsylvania license plates though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s01e19-the-only-light-in-the-darkness-open-spoilers/686730.md?page=4)