# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E02: Heavy Is The Head (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2014, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e02-heavy-is-the-head-open-spoilers/700053 "2014-10-01T04:27:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e02-heavy-is-the-head-open-spoilers/700053/41 "2014-10-02T07:34:37Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > We still don’t know exactly what the First 0-8-4 _does_. Sure, it seemed to have killed that waitress, and Creel had great difficulty in controlling its effect on him. Skye-Dad told Raina something to the effect of the obelisk not killing her because it didn’t want to (I _think_ I remember that, anyway), seeming to imply there’s an intelligence there somewhere. Hartley’s forearm was cut off and left in the road last episode. Like a lizard that regrows its tail, perhaps the First 0-8-4 can control things it has ‘infected,’ such that it can create an Ebil Mirror Hartley to do its bidding. There’ve been worse supervillain origins. Interesting theory. IIRC Nazi guy back in the first scene of last week’s episode said something about the object giving immortality. We’re only assuming all these stone people are dead. Maybe this is just some temporary transformation stage and they all pop back to life after a few weeks - and in this case coming back as evil versions of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e02-heavy-is-the-head-open-spoilers/700053/42 "2014-10-02T17:10:24Z")
Given Raina’s comments last season about Skye becoming a monster, _and_ the (comics) connection of the Kree to the Inhumans, I’d speculate that the 084 obelisk is the cinematic version of the [Terrigen Mist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrigen_Mist). In the comics they’re usually released from crystals often depicted of suspiciously similar size to the obelisk. Non-Inhumans exposed to the Terrigen Mist undergo gruesome and fatal metamorphoses. Inhumans “mutate” (sometimes into monsters) and gain powers. Kree, I think, are unaffected because their genetics are at a dead end, or something. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e02-heavy-is-the-head-open-spoilers/700053/43 "2014-10-02T17:31:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That and we’ve already had at least two identical Koenig twins (it remains to be seen if the mentioned third brother is a triplet). > > Having two sets of identical twin agents replacing a dead sibling would be straining credibility too far even for this show. Then it might be that the blue alien serum can grow a clone from a body part, her arm. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e02-heavy-is-the-head-open-spoilers/700053/44 "2014-10-02T17:39:53Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Then it might be that the blue alien serum can grow a clone from a body part, her arm. But does Talbot have access to BAS? I don’t think so. My bet is cyborg, because they buried an empty coffin. The medallion will come back and play a part in it, mark my words. ---
**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e02-heavy-is-the-head-open-spoilers/700053/45 "2014-10-03T01:10:34Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > [spoiler]I think it’s a fake. They wouldn’t put a reveal like this in the preview. > > Besides I predicted she was Hydra months ago and my predictions about this show are always wrong. > > Which, when you think about it, means my prediction that the preview is a fake will be wrong.[/spoiler] Haha well I hope you guys are right 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e02-heavy-is-the-head-open-spoilers/700053.md?page=2)