# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E09:...Ye Who Enter Here (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 3, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185 "2014-12-03T01:35:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/21 "2014-12-04T15:17:33Z")

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[quote=“pricciar, post:13, topic:706185”]

[li]“Sending the Calvary! Sweeeeet!” “Sam? What are you 13? You can’t even do a sit up and you expect to meet up with the Calvary.”[/li][/QUOTE]  
Nitpick: it’s **Cavalry**. Agent May is not the hill where Jesus was crucified (as far as we know!). 🙂

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/22 "2014-12-04T15:22:56Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Lawless will be back. I’ve said that from the beginning. The locket Hunter draped over her sister’s car mirror will play a part as well. I also think Whitehall will be harder to kill than we think.

When Mack and Bobbie were talking in the cockpit I was thinking “Two can keep a secret as long as one of them is dead”. I figured he was doomed at that point.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/23 "2014-12-04T22:13:00Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Why did we hear Whitehall’s voice telling the Shield plane to surrender when Whitehall was on the ground waiting to pick up the May lookalike?

I know! If only someone could figure out a way to patch through a phone call.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/24 "2014-12-04T22:49:51Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I know! If only someone could figure out a way to patch through a phone call.

Does the CEO of Southwest Airlines handle his pilots’ radio traffic for them? Does a military commander patch himself through to enemy aircraft? Just seems odd.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/25 "2014-12-05T16:57:44Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Does the CEO of Southwest Airlines handle his pilots’ radio traffic for them? Does a military commander patch himself through to enemy aircraft? Just seems odd.

Maybe they have a voice mode that makes EVERYONE sound like Whitehall? Dude’s such an egotist.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/26 "2014-12-05T19:17:39Z")

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Maybe Whitehall has 13 twin brothers.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/27 "2014-12-05T21:40:35Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Maybe Whitehall has 13 twin brothers.

Daniel’s the tall one.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/28 "2014-12-06T11:56:54Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Does the CEO of Southwest Airlines handle his pilots’ radio traffic for them? Does a military commander patch himself through to enemy aircraft?

Of course they don’t. That sounds like something like a comic book villain would do.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/29 "2014-12-08T20:29:40Z")

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Just a note on the end of this thread to say that the Gawker website io9 has a spoiler-free note that tomorrow’s mid-season finale episode is going to be really good:

> **[Tomorrow Night's Agents of SHIELD Will Blow Your Goddamn Mind](https://gizmodo.com/tomorrow-nights-agents-of-shield-will-blow-your-goddamn-1668246929)**
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> This fall's episodes of Marvel's Agents of SHIELD have been pretty crazy with the twists and the reveals, but tomorrow night's episode — the last until the spring — blows the lid off everything. We saw it, and here are our spoiler-free impressions.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/30 "2014-12-09T15:22:51Z")

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Going back and rewatching the episode I’m pretty sure the voice on the radio was Ward. I’m also certain Mack isn’t dead (yet.) Anybody who can take 4 or 5 shots in the back at close range isn’t going to be hurt by a little fall. Hell, landing on the runes at the bottom of the pit just might make him _stronger_.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/31 "2014-12-09T15:45:25Z")

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Was’nt Mockingbird married to Barton in the comics? Maybe thats the big secret.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/32 "2014-12-09T15:46:37Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Was’nt Mockingbird married to Barton in the comics? Maybe thats the big secret.

So that’s what happened in Budapest.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/33 "2014-12-09T15:54:15Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Going back and rewatching the episode I’m pretty sure the voice on the radio was Ward. I’m also certain Mack isn’t dead (yet.) Anybody who can take 4 or 5 shots in the back at close range isn’t going to be hurt by a little fall. Hell, landing on the runes at the bottom of the pit just might make him _stronger_.

No way it’s Ward - doesn’t sound anything like him. It’s definitely Whitehall - in fact, as soon as the radio announces “SHIELD 616. Do not engage your defenses or you will be shot out of the sky” May turns to Skye and says “Whitehall.” If it was Ward, you’d think they would have recognized his voice and commented on THAT, instead of being surprised that he’s now working for Hydra as he walked down the steps.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/34 "2014-12-09T16:08:26Z")

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Back to the Tivo! 😃

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/35 "2014-12-09T16:16:55Z")

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I’m watching online and on a DVR, so I can listen to voice samples of each character and compare it with the radio message. Absolutely not Ward, and if it isn’t Whitehall, it’s someone who sounds frighteningly like him. The message itself implies it’s directly from him too - “You have someone aboard that I want. A woman named Raina. I’m going to send over a representative to get her.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/36 "2014-12-09T16:28:44Z")

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I bow to reality.  
How many hours until tonight’s episode?

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> It’s definitely Whitehall - in fact, as soon as the radio announces "SHIELD 616.

Was it really 616? Nice inside joke.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e09-ye-who-enter-here-open-spoilers/706185/38 "2014-12-09T17:32:49Z")

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The Bus has always had the designation 616, and yes, it is pretty cool. 🙂

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