# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E12: Who You Really Are **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 11, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733 "2015-03-11T00:39:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/61 "2015-03-12T19:57:04Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > With the many obelisks all being activated by Cal to turn create more Inhumans won’t that be sending alarm bells to more Kree and Asgardians to investigate? One of them got a Kree and Lady Sif, what would you expect if 5 more activate in short succession? > > Or was it the city that sent the alarm bell? Cal isn’t getting more Inhumans. He’s getting the superpowered people formerly locked away by SHIELD; that’s the program he was muttering about to Raina. What is up with people referring to Skye as a “waif”? Chloe Bennett isn’t bulked up, but she’s by no means a frail little waif. She’s actually of a fairly average build. Or is this just more hateful size-shaming? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/62 "2015-03-12T20:03:11Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Cal isn’t getting more Inhumans. He’s getting the superpowered people formerly locked away by SHIELD; that’s the program he was muttering about to Raina. What superhumans are we talking about? I can’t remember. Cal mentioned the index, and I thought they’d be new characters, possibly renegade Inhumans. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/63 "2015-03-12T20:10:09Z")
The Index, that was the name. 1st season had as a plotline all the superpowered people that SHIELD had been collecting. Ward and Garrett freed them all when they break into the Fridge. Presumably, all those being held in the Fridge were on the Index. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/64 "2015-03-12T20:37:19Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > The Index, that was the name. > > 1st season had as a plotline all the superpowered people that SHIELD had been collecting. Ward and Garrett freed them all when they break into the Fridge. Presumably, all those being held in the Fridge were on the Index. I vaguely remember that. There was the one guy who was obsessed with Coulson’s ex. What others were there? Would Cal know them? It sounded like Cal wanted to get back together with some old buddies and form a team. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/65 "2015-03-12T20:41:07Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > What is up with people referring to Skye as a “waif”? Chloe Bennett isn’t bulked up, but she’s by no means a frail little waif. She’s actually of a fairly average build. Or is this just more hateful size-shaming? Yes, her build is fairly normal (for Hollywood), but she plays the “waif” role here, something Whedon is known for. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/66 "2015-03-12T20:55:45Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I vaguely remember that. There was the one guy who was obsessed with Coulson’s ex. What others were there? Would Cal know them? It sounded like Cal wanted to get back together with some old buddies and form a team. I don’t recall any in particular, either, other than the mob freed in the scene at the Fridge. I suppose there’s Graviton… I don’t recall that plotline ever getting resolved. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Yes, her build is fairly normal (for Hollywood), but she plays the “waif” role here, something Whedon is known for. _Joss_ Whedon is known for that. This is _his brother_’s show. And, really, even Buffy wasn’t a “waif”. Are _all_ the women on this show “waifs”, then? Melinda, Bobbi, Gemma, too? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/67 "2015-03-12T20:57:45Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Wonder if we’ll see Skrulls? Do they have the rights to them? The Chitauri take the place of the Skrulls in the MCU, AFAIK. And all the Skye haters - why even watch the show? She’s been the POV character from the get-go. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/68 "2015-03-12T20:58:05Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > _Joss_ Whedon is known for that. This is _his brother_’s show. And, really, even Buffy wasn’t a “waif”. > > Are _all_ the women on this show “waifs”, then? Melinda, Bobbi, Gemma, too? Well Joss is supposedly lending some advice. No, hardly. Melinda is the anti-waif; tough, strong, independent. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/69 "2015-03-12T21:46:49Z")
> [@Miss\_Woodhouse](#): > > I’m excited to see more superhuman characters with Cal and his gang. It’s what I expected from a Marvel show in the first place. Yeah, and then you can celebrate good times. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/70 "2015-03-12T22:14:43Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, and then you can celebrate good times. Come on. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/71 "2015-03-12T23:08:02Z")
How much ya wanna bet last season something like this happened: Producer: Hey guys we’re being slammed in the blogosphere as the cast isnt ethnic enough! Staff- hey that’s bogus, there’s May and Skye and… Big Time Network dude: Bring in someone black or else! Writer A: Hmm, let me write in Mack. Writer B: Hey I’ll bring in Tripp. Producer: great guys! Big Time Network dude: No, you cant have _two_ black guys on your show, what do you think this is, BET? Kill one off! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/72 "2015-03-13T00:34:11Z")
You forget the third black guy, the one they killed off in the opening episode for the season, along with Lucy Lawless. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/73 "2015-03-13T00:39:45Z")
Why do they kill off the white Kiwi women? I’m not saying they’re racist, but c’mon… one episode and dead? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/74 "2015-03-13T00:42:35Z")
She’ll get better. Bet on it. For certain values of “better.” ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/75 "2015-03-13T00:48:46Z")
She’ll get better. Count me in on Team Skye. I didn’t like her (or FitzSimmons) at first; now she’s growing on me. Maurissa and Jed aren’t averse to having strong female leads who are human (see _Dollhouse_), and I don’t mind Skye being a Primary in an ensemble. WAG - Raina is Squirrel Girl!!! Look out, Dr. Doom! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/76 "2015-03-13T00:50:50Z")
> [@Miss\_Woodhouse](#): > > How can you watch a Joss Whedon show and not expect it to be about the special snowflake waif girl? I’m not seeing Skye as the typical Whedon heroine. Previous “special snowflake waif girls” like Buffy or Echo or River may have had a waif-like surface but it was established right from the beginning that they had special abilities immediately below that surface. These were women who deserved respect. The only people who treated them like waifs were those who were unable to see past the surface to the real woman. But up until the last couple of episodes, Skye really was as waif-like as she appeared. Other than her moderate computer skills she had no special abilities. She was the weakest link in the team but for some reason everyone else was giving her tremendous and mostly undeserved respect. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/77 "2015-03-13T00:53:26Z")
> [@Neverending\_Elbow](#): > > I wonder if they took the time to use that alien doohickey and give that nurse her memory back. Truncheon. But that’s a word I haven’t seen very often, outside of Norman Spinrad’s _The Iron Dream_. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/78 "2015-03-13T01:13:53Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > How much ya wanna bet last season something like this happened: I thought Tripp’s actor asked to be written out, as he was committed to another show. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/79 "2015-03-13T01:15:34Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Truncheon. But that’s a word I haven’t seen very often, outside of Norman Spinrad’s _The Iron Dream_. That little truncheon cracked me up. I kept imagining Thor showing up. “Oh, what a cute little toy hammer.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/80 "2015-03-13T01:25:52Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > I thought Tripp’s actor asked to be written out, as he was committed to another show. > **['Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.': Latest victim speaks out](https://ew.com/article/2014/12/10/agents-shield-trip-death-bj-britt/)** > > 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.': Latest victim speaks out _When did you find out Trip was actually going to die? B.J. BRITT: Nooo! I don’t want to die. [Laughs]. I found out a week prior to getting the script that Trip was going to die. We don’t get the scripts ahead of time, we always find out what’s going to happen in the next episode when we show up at the table read, or maybe a day before the table read. I remember it like it was yesterday. I just finished a scene at the end of the day, and I was back to my trailer, and they said, “Hey, B.J.! Producers want to see you at the office.” My stomach just dropped and I was like, “Oh, hell.” So then I’m like, don’t freak out, it might be an arc, keeping my spirits up. You get the butterflies in your stomach. Then I walked up to the office and all the producers were there and it was like, “Oh hell….how does he die?” I knew it; I just knew it when they were all there. They were like “B.J., we’re sorry, so sorry…” They told me ahead of time, which I’m very, very grateful for, because I didn’t want to show up to the table read and find out there. As soon as I left, they told the rest of the cast and everybody started calling me and texting me._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733.md?page=5)