# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E12: Who You Really Are **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 11, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733 "2015-03-11T00:39:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/161 "2015-03-17T21:14:08Z")
Maybe Attilan projects a cloaking field that hides things from Heimdall. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/162 "2015-03-17T22:35:22Z")
As I very dimly recall from earlier Thor comics, Heimdall could see anything (and everything?), and he was charged with guarding Bifrost, the rainbow bridge and entryway to Asgard. But _telling_ all…maybe that’s not in his job description? Meaning that as long as it wasn’t an apparent threat to Asgard, it was unimportant. Also, Odin may have asked him about this or that from time to time, but didn’t he have messenger ravens for near the same purpose? Augh, I’ve forgotten quite a bit of my Norse mythology. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/163 "2015-03-17T23:56:52Z")
Thought and Memory are handy spies, but limited. Heimdall’s weakness is probably more one of attention than ability. Sure, he can see everything on Asgard or earth, but he can’t see _everything_ on Asgard and Earth, if you catch the distinction. If he ain’t lookin’ fer it, he kin’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/164 "2015-03-18T00:08:26Z")
After Agent Carter’s faster pace I was a little worried that the SHIELD’s return would feel especially slow. But, I enjoyed this episode a lot. I thought they told us enough new things, without giving away the whole story! And, another great cliffhanger! ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/165 "2015-03-19T15:25:44Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > So does the Kree remain a perpetual amnesiac guest of Asgard, because if not, the minute he gets home somebody’s gonna re-neuralize him and it’ll start all over. Sif said that they’d get him home to the Kree. Not long on planning, that one. > [@levdrakon](#): > > That little truncheon cracked me up. I kept imagining Thor showing up. “Oh, what a cute little toy hammer.” “We shall call it Ballpeenjir.” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/166 "2015-03-19T15:36:18Z")
I just rewatched the ep last night and caught a funny I missed the first time. When Sif & Son of Coul were interrogating the Kree has a name, Sif goes, “typical Kree! They need a weapon to make a point!” while she’s waving her sword at him. Coulson gave her look like, “um…” Those two had chemistry. I could watch a whole ep of those two. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/167 "2015-03-19T16:18:31Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Good catch. And we know that each Diviner can morph multiple humans at the same time. So the limit might be how many people can fit in the room at a time. Or football stadium. The Philippine Arena seats 55,000, but if you’re willing to crowd in a bunch of standing people you might could get 75,000 in there. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/168 "2015-03-19T16:26:37Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > Or football stadium. The Philippine Arena seats 55,000, but if you’re willing to crowd in a bunch of standing people you might could get 75,000 in there. I figure there’s gotta be some sort of diminishing returns, there… there were only two people under the sea a few episodes ago: One of them developed porcupine powers, and one of them spawned earthquake powers that almost killed everybody. If you Inhumanize 75,000 people all at once, it’s gonna be messy… ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/169 "2015-03-19T16:37:32Z")
Another thing I noticed. The Kree said he detected a signal and knew it must be a Diviner. Coulson also said, “good thing we flooded the base so they can’t make any more.” But, Inhumans have been going through the transformation for centuries. Why no signals before this? Also, someone mentioned the Diviners from the crate in Portugal must have been stolen in the '40’s around the time the one Hydra found was stolen. Again, if iHumans have been transforming for centuries, they couldn’t have been using the missing Portugal ones. Also also, those Portuguese kids on the beach at the beginning? Were those the worst accents ever or what? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/170 "2015-03-19T20:17:12Z")
The Kree got a signal from the Kree city being used to activate a Divine. Presumably, the Inhumans know how to activate a Diviner _without_ needing the Kree city. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/171 "2015-03-19T20:34:53Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > The Kree got a signal from the Kree city being used to activate a Divine. Presumably, the Inhumans know how to activate a Diviner _without_ needing the Kree city. That must be the case. I wonder how long it will take Coulson & Co. to figure it out. They’ve seen Gordon now, and they know about Skye’s mom, and I’d expect them to talk about it. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/172 "2015-03-19T20:58:50Z")
They don’t actually know that “Gordon” (when did he get named? I thought he was supposed to be the Reader…) is an Inhuman. They’ve only got Raina and Skye as example Inhumans, plus reports of Skye’s mom. They have no reason to connect Gordon to any of those, since he popped up and took _Cal_. They know Cal had been mining the Index for superpowered minions. Their most logical conclusion is that Gordon is another superpowered minion working for Cal who didn’t get on the Index. Not that he’s a mystery Inhuman. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/173 "2015-03-19T21:11:47Z")
He’s doing a crappy job of mining. He managed to find a blade freak, a sociopath IT guys, some muscle and a loud-mouth who can be defeated by wearing earplugs. I could find a better crew by randomly picking people along Hollywood Blvd. some Saturday night! ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/174 "2015-03-19T21:14:57Z")
He took Raina right out of Shield’s grasp. They should be wondering who in the heck his is, Index or Inhuman. I’m curious how Gordon (that’s what Skye’s mom called him) locates people to teleport. Is that his power, or is there another with the ability to find people? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/175 "2015-03-19T21:27:48Z")
He has to be able to locate all sorts of things, otherwise he would have teleported into a rock or something decades ago. I’d also like to know more about his shield power. Is that strictly during teleportation, as a protective measure against aforementioned rocks, or can he use it defensively? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/176 "2015-03-19T21:35:08Z")
The shield appears first, then he pops in, so I guess the shield clears the way. The whole energy effect seems to emanate from his upper back. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/177 "2015-03-20T20:06:39Z")
I heard Coulson refer to “Fitz and Simmons” for the first time instead of the usual “FitzSimmons” blended concoction. That kind of got my attention. I guess it’s a reflection of the fact that they are not quite the duo they once were. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/178 "2015-03-20T20:41:30Z")
Called it! Spoilers for the next two episodes: 1. Ward and 33 are back next week as well as Adama appearing as a rival SHIELD director. 2. March 31 will see the reappearance of Lucy Lawless. Told you they weren’t going to burn her in just one appearance. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/179 "2015-03-20T21:46:50Z")
I ain’t readin’ no damn spoiler. Just gonna have to hold off on that there “called it” pardner. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733/180 "2015-03-20T22:36:10Z")
Actually, the “called it” goes back to S02E02. If I got it completely correct I’m going to have to ask Joss of a writing job! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e12-who-you-really-are/714733.md?page=10)