# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E14: Love in the Time of Hydra" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 25, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911 "2015-03-25T01:28:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/21 "2015-03-25T19:04:42Z")
Adama use a modern helicarrier? Blasphemy. He’s old school. No networks on his boat. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/22 "2015-03-25T19:07:54Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > So, was this just a SHIELD aircraft carrier, or does Adama have the SHIELD helicarrier? Boy is there anything stupider in military history than the SHIELD helicarrier? They seem to exist only to be taken over or crashed. in any case-There is no character named Adama in this show. You mean Robert Gonzales (Edward James Olmos). ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/23 "2015-03-25T19:08:43Z")
Well, I’d assume it would be the one with the turbine fans., so that’s plenty old school. We know what happened to the ones with repulsor engines… ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/24 "2015-03-25T19:09:27Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > I was wondering if Angry Hey-It’s-That-Guy playing Adama’s lieutenant was part an Adama goodcop/badcop to test Bobbi. > > So, was this just a SHIELD aircraft carrier, or does Adama have the SHIELD helicarrier? Either way, you’d think someone would’ve kept track of that thing. Maybe bring up its whereabouts in the Congressional hearings that Natasha had to go to. If my math is correct, there is five carriers. One from the original avengers, and the four from winter soldier, I am betting that this is the original carrier. Declan ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/25 "2015-03-25T19:45:36Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > If my math is correct, there is five carriers. One from the original avengers, and the four from winter soldier, I am betting that this is the original carrier. > > Declan There were only 3 in Winter Soldier, and none of them survived the movie. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/26 "2015-03-25T19:49:15Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > in any case-There is no character named Adama in this show. You mean Robert Gonzales (Edward James Olmos). Whatever you say, Canute. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/27 "2015-03-25T20:38:09Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > There were only 3 in Winter Soldier, and none of them survived the movie. So we have just proved that My Math is incorrect. Declan ---
**Author:** ![DarkFire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@DarkFire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkFire)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/28 "2015-03-25T21:46:49Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Now that you mention it, I suppose we should be on the lookout for BSG easter eggs & references. The bald guy yelling that they should throw Hunter in the brig immediately gave me a flashback to Colonel Tigh on BSG. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/29 "2015-03-25T22:22:47Z")
I was annoyed how Talbot was played as a fool - you don’t reach that rank if you’re that much of a buffoon. I did enjoy the “edible arrangements” line. Gonzales’ carrier was a “regular” carrier - you could see the waves in some shots. My wife thought that ocean waves would have a noticeable effect inside the carrier, but I’m not so sure. Can any Dopers shed any light on whether a person on an aircraft carrier would notice motion from (calmish) waters? Mac’s not much of a liar - I’m glad May wasn’t fooled. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/30 "2015-03-25T23:13:35Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I was annoyed how Talbot was played as a fool - you don’t reach that rank if you’re that much of a buffoon. I did enjoy the “edible arrangements” line. > Gonzales’ carrier was a “regular” carrier - you could see the waves in some shots. My wife thought that ocean waves would have a noticeable effect inside the carrier, but I’m not so sure. Can any Dopers shed any light on whether a person on an aircraft carrier would notice motion from (calmish) waters? > Mac’s not much of a liar - I’m glad May wasn’t fooled. Sure, it was definitely in the water, but so was the heli-carrier in the beginning of the Avengers. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/31 "2015-03-26T00:31:59Z")
> [@DarkFire](#): > > The bald guy yelling that they should throw Hunter in the brig immediately gave me a flashback to Colonel Tigh on BSG. There is no character named Colonel Tigh in this show. You mean Agent Calderon (Kirk Acevedo)? In any case Colonel Tigh was played by Terry Carter, who is still alive. I have spoken against casual, purely aesthetic plastic surgery before, but a few years back a wart grew on the corner of my lip. I am not vain, but it annoyed me, so I got some of that salicylic acid in collodion wart dissolver and in a couple weeks it was gone. Adrianne Palicki is a woman of great beauty who can make fake eyelashes of a size and magnificence not seen since 1970 work very, very well, and has a distinctive enough Midwest cornfed look that she doesn’t need a flaw to accentuate her beauty. However, the show had a short hiatus and, I dunno, maybe she could’ve dabbed some Compound W on that third eye she’s growing between her eyebrows. Just a thought. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/32 "2015-03-26T00:36:02Z")
OMG, you can’t mention that! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/33 "2015-03-26T00:58:19Z")
Not a very good episode. The stuff with Skye and all that was basically filler. Although I did like how Fitz made the connection that he and Skye had both changed and people needed to accept the new versions of them rather than trying to “fix” them. I hated the Talbot stuff. As others have said, he should not be portrayed as an idiot. The Shield 2 idea is interesting but it defies my suspension of belief that it’s supposedly existed all this time with Shield 1 knowing about it. I also field that the Shield 2 people could have done a better job of presenting themselves. But I liked the Ward and 33 story. My take is that Ward has decided he’s done with being a puppet and now he wants to be a puppet master. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/34 "2015-03-26T01:01:25Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > OMG, you can’t mention that! Nice to mole you–meet you! Nice to meet your mole! Don’t say mole. I said mole. MOLE! Bloody mole! We’re not supposed to talk about the bloody mole, but there’s the bloody mole winking me in the face! I’m gonna chop it off and cut it up and make some guaca_mole_! ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/35 "2015-03-26T01:03:21Z")
LOL. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/36 "2015-03-26T01:20:31Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > OMG, you can’t mention that! See, I thought you meant Adama and Col. Tigh. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/37 "2015-03-26T02:53:23Z")
I didn’t know that about them. I mean, Adama was gruff and Tigh, though passionate, didn’t seem to like him much. But people were more closeted then. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/38 "2015-03-26T02:59:01Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > … fake eyelashes of a size and magnificence… I left out “obviousness.” They aren’t tapered at the ends to make an attempt at subtlety. They just stop. I only see those on showgirls and drag queens these days. And they look great. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/39 "2015-03-26T13:47:49Z")
Totally agreed about Talbot the buffoon. What a way to neuter a threat. Hunter’s good, but good enough to steal a sub or plane or whatever he stole off an armed carrier on alert? Ridiculous. I feel like this whole 2nd Shield thing is the writers regretting killing off Hydra so completely. They want the intra-team intrigue stuff, but Ward and Hydra already did it so well, this comes off as second-rate knockoff. That mask is really something… it can change body size and shape too? and skin color on the body and hands? whuh? Delightfully creepy scene of 33 as Skye. Though it did remind me of a scene from _Angel_. Lilah as Fred, anyone? “Leave them on.” (and where did she get a picture of Skye?) I am enjoying her arc quite a bit. Did the diner scene remind anyone of Pulp Fiction, or just me? And I loved Skye’s lampshading of Coulson’s Lola analogy. A step up from last episode, but still clunky. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911/40 "2015-03-26T13:59:45Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > That mask is really something… it can change body size and shape too? and skin color on the body and hands? whuh? I think they did a pretty good job of showing that the mask only affected the face. The voice never changed, nor the height, and the bodies were hidden by bulky clothes. I didn’t look at the hands, so I’m not sure how visible they were. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e14-love-in-the-time-of-hydra/715911.md?page=3)