# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E19: The Dirty Half Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 29, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768 "2015-04-29T02:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/61 "2015-04-30T21:50:03Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > So where did she learn the situation awareness required for that fight? It’s possible she can feel the vibrations from the other people in the room. Giving her a Daredevil-like knowledge of the room. If that’s the case, I’d expect to hear about it in a later episode in an after-action analysis. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/62 "2015-05-01T02:22:35Z")
Why destroy the base after they’d killed all the Hydra agents? For that matter, the infiltration and extraction seemed ridiculously easy. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/63 "2015-05-01T02:27:11Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Sparky is my name for Lincoln, who has electrical powers. I can never remember his name when replying (except now when I looked it up) and someone in the show called him Sparkplug or something similar, so it stuck in my head. I’ve been calling the guy with no eyes Lockjaw, because, well, he’s pretty much serving the same purpose for the TV Inhumans what Lockjaw does for the comic Inhumans. I bet he humps fewer legs, though. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/64 "2015-05-01T02:31:57Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > Every time I hear Agent 33 I think of Get Smart’s Agent 13, who was always inside trash cans or vending machines. SHIELD has an Agent 13 as well, Sharon Carter, she was in the 2nd Captain America movie, played by Emily VanCamp. With Revenge being canceled (apparently), maybe she’ll wind up on this show at some point (just a wondering on my part, not even a rumor as far as I know). I wonder how they’d connect her to Peggy, though. Safe to assume they’re not sisters in the Marvel Movieverse the way they are in the Marvel Comics Universe. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/65 "2015-05-01T13:12:24Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Another new element brought in at the end… Agent 33/Masque is back at SHIELD…unwillingly. The actress, Maya Stojan, also plays the video tech specialist on Castle. For what it’s worth, I think she is stunningly beautiful. [Maya Stojan - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3389576/) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/66 "2015-05-01T13:14:59Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I wonder how they’d connect her to Peggy, though. Safe to assume they’re not sisters in the Marvel Movieverse the way they are in the Marvel Comics Universe. I’m 80% sure that 13 is Peggy’s granddaughter. Also Revenge is not yet canceled, though I’ve read that it’s unlikely to be picked up for a full 22 next year. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/67 "2015-05-01T13:49:35Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > You say that after the episode with the very best quip on the show? “I thought her power was running really fast and collecting gold rings”. I didn’t get that. I assume it’s a reference to a video game I’ve never played. I’m guessing … Sonic the Hedgehog? Also, is the actress who’s playing Agent 33 the same one who was playing her before she got the mask fused on and then was played by Ming-Na Wen, Chloe Bennett, et al? (Yes, I remember she got a photo from her mom, presumably of herself. I’m asking anyway.) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/68 "2015-05-01T13:51:38Z")
One thing I’m _not_ going to miss after the season wraps up - all the whining about Skye’s role. Yes, it’s Skye’s show. Here, this is the world’s tiniest violin playing for all the (I assume) Coulson fanbois who won’t shut up about it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/69 "2015-05-01T13:53:14Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > I didn’t get that. I assume it’s a reference to a video game I’ve never played. I’m guessing … Sonic the Hedgehog? Yes. Because she’s spiny. > [@](#): > > Also, is the actress who’s playing Agent 33 the same one who was playing her before she got the mask fused on Yes. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/70 "2015-05-01T13:57:36Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I’m 80% sure that 13 is Peggy’s granddaughter. > > Also Revenge is not yet canceled, though I’ve read that it’s unlikely to be picked up for a full 22 next year. Sharon Carter is Peggy Carter’s niece in the current comics. And considering they tossed a line into the movie about Sharon talking to her Aunt on the phone, I’m assuming it’s the same in the MCU. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/71 "2015-05-01T13:58:25Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > One thing I’m _not_ going to miss after the season wraps up - all the whining about Skye’s role. > > Yes, it’s Skye’s show. Here, this is the world’s tiniest violin playing for all the (I assume) Coulson fanbois who won’t shut up about it. Oh God yes. There are way too many whiners. It’s almost like some people watch shows they know they won’t like just to get angry about something. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/72 "2015-05-01T14:59:08Z")
Back in season 1, didn’t Raina kill a whole bunch of innocent people while running various operations for “the clairvoyant”? Doesn’t anyone care? I guess maybe the inhumans don’t, but the S.H.I.E.L.D. people shouldn’t be willing to forgive and forget so quickly. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/73 "2015-05-01T15:03:26Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Back in season 1, didn’t Raina kill a whole bunch of innocent people while running various operations for “the clairvoyant”? Doesn’t anyone care? > > I guess maybe the inhumans don’t, but the S.H.I.E.L.D. people shouldn’t be willing to forgive and forget so quickly. Yep, and she killed a few SHIELD agents immediately after her transformation. But why do you think SHIELD has forgiven and forgotten? They were trying to capture her, with IIRC orders to kill if a capture wasn’t possible, when Gordo showed up and rescued her. She’s been in the Inhuman sanctuary ever since. And yes, it’s becoming more and more clear that the Inhumans don’t give a damn about normal humanity. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/74 "2015-05-01T15:17:11Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > One thing I’m _not_ going to miss after the season wraps up - all the whining about Skye’s role. > > Yes, it’s Skye’s show. Here, this is the world’s tiniest violin playing for all the (I assume) Coulson fanbois who won’t shut up about it. Yep, you got me. It’s just like the whole Team Vampire versus Team Werewolf thing that was going on. Because disliking one character in an ensemble cast means one must align with another. PC or Mac. Apple or Android. PS or Xbox. Always has to be one or the other. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/75 "2015-05-01T15:38:31Z")
Of course it does. What do you think religious wars are all about? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/76 "2015-05-01T16:56:22Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Another new element brought in at the end… Agent 33/Masque is back at SHIELD…unwillingly. > > Show-wise- was she brought in there as a backup field agent if the Bobbi and Hunter spin-off goes forward? Wait, what? WTF? They’re doing a spinoff for this show already??? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/77 "2015-05-01T17:02:06Z")
Yep. Bobbi and Hunter are getting their own show. What it will be has yet to be announced. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/78 "2015-05-01T17:03:47Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Wait, what? WTF? They’re doing a spinoff for this show already??? Not to mention that ABC is developing another Marvel show not connected to AoS besides the spin-off. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/79 "2015-05-01T17:04:42Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > That scene took me right out of the episode. Hacker to super-spy in 6 months? Maybe…_ **maybe** _…6 years. In my eyes, the episode never recovered after that scene. Don’t know if I’ll be back if it gets a season 3. At the very least, this show has been pushed down on the watch-list. In the comics, most mutants had some heightened physical abilities, even those with non-combat mutations. It seemed to just go along with the territory, and also made it easier for the writings to explain how the psychic guy could survive a Juggernaut rampage that ought to have killed a normal human. I think they are doing the same sort of thing here with their version of Inhumans. Gordon the teleporter seems stronger than a normal human. So does Cal, even though he isn’t an inhuman, per se. Skye probably has a new burst of speed and strength post-terrigenesis. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768/80 "2015-05-01T17:25:03Z")
At this rate, all television programming will be either comic-book or reality-based. I was annoyed Simmons was so clumsy in her attempt to take out Ward. Just shoot him. Geez. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e19-the-dirty-half-dozen/718768.md?page=5)