# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E21 S02E22 - S.O.S. Parts 1 and 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 13, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899 "2015-05-13T00:08:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/41 "2015-05-13T18:57:47Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Hartley will be back and avenge us for the cruel mockery we endure. It was barely a flesh wound. Gonzales won’t be back because we saw him crumbling and I don’t think Almos would want to come back anyway. > > Kinda weird how they made such a big deal about getting Skye & Raina to a special terragenesis Kree temple and all, but now all it takes is a few molecules of the stuff to turn people and Jaiying went from strictly enforcing a long preparation & selection process for new Inhumans and then decided “the heck with it” and was willing to release the vapor willy nilly all over the place. Lucy Lawless’ appearance now appears to have been a classic troll-the-genre-aware-viewers casting. I’d imagine they’re chortling about their cleverness. Jiaying told us why the Inhumans in Afterlife don’t use the Diviners – they only had a handful (5 or 6). So they eventually melted down the Diviners (presumably other than the one Gordon had in his initial appearance), to make gobs and gobs of crystals. Since Skye’s and Raina’s terrigenesis apparently used up that Diviner completely, and Jiaying apparently expected each crystal to be capable of causing terrigenesis, they were able to extend their terrigenesis capability by quite a bit. And in the light of what we’ve learned about Jiaying, I’m not so sure that she’s been picking Inhumans to undergo terrigenesis purely in their own best interest. Both Gordon and Lincoln were chosen by her, and both seem to feel obligated to her; I think she’d been picking which Inhumans undergo terrigenesis based on who would be most loyal and obedient to her. Raina mentioned to the Inhuman father that his son would undergo terrigenesis, and Gordon took the other Inhumans home… wonder if the kid will be taking some fish oil? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/42 "2015-05-13T19:13:34Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Why didn’t SHIELD recover the crystals? Several reasons: They may not know they are there. Unless Skye tells them specifically what happened, they’d never know they were there. Even if they did, what could they do about it? Deep-sea recovery is a rather specialized and expensive operation. I suppose they could ask Tony or Rhoady to go get them, but that again assumes they know or care about the crystals. Coulson may have just said “Good - they’re at the bottom of the ocean where they can’t cause any problems.” It won’t be until next season (and quite a bit later in show time) for them to connect the dots. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/43 "2015-05-13T19:18:49Z")
> [@Gothic](#): > > Multi-Ginger-Ninja : best gf ever. Who played her? I couldn’t tell from IMDB… ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/44 "2015-05-13T19:19:55Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Jiaying told us why the Inhumans in Afterlife don’t use the Diviners – they only had a handful (5 or 6). So they eventually melted down the Diviners (presumably other than the one Gordon had in his initial appearance), to make gobs and gobs of crystals. Since Skye’s and Raina’s terrigenesis apparently used up that Diviner completely, and Jiaying apparently expected each crystal to be capable of causing terrigenesis, they were able to extend their terrigenesis capability by quite a bit. Skye & Raina’s Diviner was destroyed because Trip kicked it. Which was completely unnecessary, and wound up resulting in his own death. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/45 "2015-05-13T19:27:21Z")
Trip would’ve died regardless; he was in the terrigenesis chamber, and humans don’t survive terrigenesis. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/46 "2015-05-13T19:28:11Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Who played her? I couldn’t tell from IMDB… I think it was [Alicia Vela-Bailey](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2151188/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t19), whose career has mostly been as a stunt double. > [@Gothic](#): > > Multi-Ginger-Ninja : best gf ever. I don’t know - she looks a bit high maintenance. You’d need eventually need a nap. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/47 "2015-05-13T19:33:18Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > I thought the prostheses made him look like Bruce Campbell. YMMV. FWIW, I had exactly the same thought. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/48 "2015-05-13T19:34:14Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Trip would’ve died regardless; he was in the terrigenesis chamber, and humans don’t survive terrigenesis. But when the diviner opened and the mist came out, he was unaffected, while Skye and Raina were cocooned. It wasn’t until he kicked it, and got a piece of the diviner casing shot into him, that he got petrified. There’s no evidence that had he let everything go as planned that he would have been killed anyway. Remember, when Jiaying was explaining to Gonzales how they make their own crystals, she said some of the metal from the diviners got into the crystals, but it doesn’t matter to them, since the diviners are harmless to Inhumans. They went out of their way to explain why homemade crystals are fatal to regular humans, implying that the original Kree crystals are not. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/49 "2015-05-13T19:56:44Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I think it was [Alicia Vela-Bailey](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2151188/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t19), whose career has mostly been as a stunt double. Yes, I picked her out, too, but she was only listed as a stunt double for Bobbi, not as the Ginger Ninja. (Does that character have a name in the MCU or comics world?) ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/50 "2015-05-13T19:59:04Z")
If you look at the full cast for that episode, she’s listed as a character named “Alisha”: > **["Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." S.O.S. Part 2 (TV Episode 2015) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4110822/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast)** > > "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." S.O.S. Part 2 (TV Episode 2015) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/51 "2015-05-13T20:30:21Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > If you look at the full cast for that episode, she’s listed as a character named “Alisha”: > > ["Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." S.O.S. Part 2 (TV Episode 2015) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4110822/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast) Thanks. I just found her specifically discussed on this episode recap on io9, the sci-fi blog site that is part of the Gawker family of sites: [http://observationdeck.io9.com/let-the-cannon-loose-secrets-of-shield-episode-sos-1704138799/+riamisra](http://observationdeck.io9.com/let-the-cannon-loose-secrets-of-shield-episode-sos-1704138799/+riamisra) ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/52 "2015-05-13T20:32:36Z")
OK, so the crystals dissolve in the ocean, and somehow get absorbed by fish. The fish are then processed by humans. Those humans should be dying/transformed/whatever long before the tainted fish oil reaches the shelves at grocery stores, which should result in the product being recalled before widespread problems occur… ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/53 "2015-05-13T21:00:20Z")
My son and I cooked up an interesting theory. The shape-shifting alien block is the MCU version of the Venom symbiont. Therefore, Agent Simmons will be transformed into… Wait for it… Agent Venom! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/54 "2015-05-13T21:03:16Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > OK, so the crystals dissolve in the ocean, and somehow get absorbed by fish. The fish are then processed by humans. Those humans should be dying/transformed/whatever long before the tainted fish oil reaches the shelves at grocery stores, which should result in the product being recalled before widespread problems occur… Yep. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/55 "2015-05-13T21:15:34Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > My son and I cooked up an interesting theory. The shape-shifting alien block is the MCU version of the Venom symbiont. Therefore, Agent Simmons will be transformed into… > > Wait for it… > > Agent Venom! That’s a fairly popular theory around the various boards. I don’t buy it. Venom is a Spiderman property, and as far as I know the MCU only got the use of Spiderman, not the whole of the Spidey pantheon of characters. I don’t doubt that the Big Block O’Goo will do _something_ to Simmons, but I don’t think they’ll make it much like Venom. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/56 "2015-05-13T21:16:21Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > OThose humans should be dying/transformed/whatever long before the tainted fish oil reaches the shelves at grocery stores, which should result in the product being recalled before widespread problems occur… Not necessarily since the Diviner metal caused the petrification. If only the crystal disolved and got in the fish oil it only affect potential Inhumans. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/57 "2015-05-13T21:27:56Z")
Another arm lopped off for the supercut. I know they started doing that in Phase 2. I wonder if it’ll end with Ant Man or just be a thing now. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/58 "2015-05-13T21:39:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Thanks. :dubious: > > But just the opposite. I’d like the main team to be Coulson, May, Fitz, Simmons, etc- with no supers and _no one character hogging all the screen time._ > > \*\*Skye is a waif- well, pretty close to it. \*\* > > [http://www.kissmywonderwoman.com/2012/02/joss-whedons-waif-fu.html](http://www.kissmywonderwoman.com/2012/02/joss-whedons-waif-fu.html) > \*But I have beef. Specifically, I have beef with Joss Whedon’s constant use of Waif Fu. > > What is Waif Fu? Well, it’s when a young girl, small, slender, pretty, miraculously kicks the ass of man much bigger than her. Maybe she’s mystically strong, maybe she’s just really good at judo, maybe everyone she beats up secretly has brittle bone disease. Whatever. It’s when you see a tiny hot chick beating up Rambo.\* “Pretty close to it”? Bing tells me that Chloe Bennet is 5’6". That is, TTBOMK, slightly above average height for a woman. Have we reached the point where we’re describing any woman smaller than an average male as “tiny”? ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/59 "2015-05-13T21:43:48Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > Best line of the night: “Science, bee-yotch!” Yes. Yes, it was. As much as I love Clark Gregg (and have been a Coulson fan ever since he showed up trying to get an appointment with Tony Stark in _Iron Man_), Fitz is rapidly becoming my favorite character on AoS. He’s had quite a dramatic arc, from his early appearances as half of FitzSimmons, just a wide-eyed scientist whose biggest goal in life was to have a monkey of his own, through his early field ops with Ward (who threw his sandwich away!), then nearly being murdered by Ward and suffering brain damage in the aftermath, followed by his slow, frustrating recovery. Now he’s (almost) a bad-ass field agent of his own accord, throwing out sassy one-liners like James Bond (or Phil Coulson). Big props to ‎Iain De Caestecker … he’s done a heck of a job acting this role. Fitz is awesome. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/60 "2015-05-13T21:47:33Z")
By a strict definition, Skye is a waif - _a homeless and helpless person, especially a neglected or abandoned child._ But \*tiny \*she ain’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899.md?page=4)