# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S02E21 S02E22 - S.O.S. Parts 1 and 2

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**Created:** [May 13, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899 "2015-05-13T00:08:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/61 "2015-05-13T21:54:32Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> That’s a fairly popular theory around the various boards. I don’t buy it. Venom is a Spiderman property, and as far as I know the MCU only got the use of Spiderman, not the whole of the Spidey pantheon of characters.
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> I don’t doubt that the Big Block O’Goo will do _something_ to Simmons, but I don’t think they’ll make it much like Venom.

[The announcement doesn’t seem to preclude the use of other Spider-Man characters](http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062/sony_pictures_entertainment_brings_marvel_studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man)

It wouldn’t make sense to get only Spidey and not his friends and foes, too.

I guess time will tell.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/62 "2015-05-13T21:57:37Z")

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Good episode(s), but…

I did find S.H.I.E.L.D.'s idea of a proper containment device for a clearly active\* alien artifact of unknown power to be kind of hilarious. Yes–let’s put that sucker in a plexiglas container with some latches that can be opened if somebody just sort of stumbles and bumps into the thing. Hell, I have cat carriers that are more secure than that.

\*I’m pretty sure both we _and the characters_ saw the black-rock-with-rectangular-holes doing that dissolve-and-then-reform thing, right?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
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No kidding. Then have the two top scientists there not notice that the case was unlocked. Then no alarm sounded when the case was breached. And shouldn’t there be massive numbers of cameras on that thing? We had better see mass panic instantly come Season 3, Episode 1.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/64 "2015-05-13T23:58:01Z")

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Was the case really open, or did the Kree blob have the ability to open it anytime it wanted to, but didn’t? Mac made it pretty clear that case wasn’t being opened to so much as slip a little sensor in.

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**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/65 "2015-05-14T00:37:50Z")

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Did Fitz accidentally unlock it when he slipped into it, while asking Simmons out to dinner?

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Fitz leaned on/bumped into the plexiglas when he was proposing dinner, popping open its latch. Simmons later absentmindedly tsks and goes to close the latch when she notices it – only to be swumbled up by the Monolith/Blob.

But, yeah, really dumb containment for something the guy now in charge of it is freaked out by. _Locks_, not latches, would have been a good start. And since they’ve seen it’s sometimes fluid, _secondary containment_.

Hell, we keep tanks of acetic acid in a diked area at work; they should _at least_ have taken as many precautions as we take for what is essentially vinegar.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/67 "2015-05-14T01:04:16Z")

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In that case, it was way too easy to accidentally open it. Did anyone ever see it liquefying, or was it just us that saw it?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
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If they didn’t have the room totally wired for video, they all deserve to be eaten by the blob.

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It went liquidy when Gordon and Raina found it, spooking them into jumping away. And it went liquidy in a few other establishing shots with people around it looking at it - no one _mentioned_ it, though. So either (1) they didn’t see it, (2) it is a known thing that it does and so worthy of no comment, or (3) they’re hopelessly bad at their jobs.

Given that the plexiglas was only latched - regardless of whether the thing goes liquidy - I’m betting on #3.

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Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the Kree stone that gobbled up Simmons and the gravitonium thing that Dr. Hall was sent into in Season 1? Apparently Hall is still alive and we don’t know about Simmons, but I’m pretty sure she will be back next season. Maybe I missed it, so just asking.

I’m vaguely familiar with the backstory in the comics. Regardless, I am sensing a connection in the upcoming season.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/71 "2015-05-14T04:41:43Z")

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> [@Reluctant\_A](#):
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> “Pretty close to it”?
> 
> Bing tells me that Chloe Bennet is 5’6". That is, TTBOMK, slightly above average height for a woman. Have we reached the point where we’re describing any woman smaller than an average male as “tiny”?

Waifdom is relative. You can’t compare Bennet’s height only to other women when she’s shown fighting men as well. When a woman is shown physically overpowering men who are six inches taller than her, it’s waif fu.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/72 "2015-05-14T05:06:24Z")

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And at least 20 kg heavier.

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/73 "2015-05-14T05:40:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Waifdom is relative. You can’t compare Bennet’s height only to other women when she’s shown fighting men as well. When a woman is shown physically overpowering men who are six inches taller than her, it’s waif fu.

So, basically, by that criteria, any woman cast in an action scene in Hollywood _but_ Adrianne Palicki is a “waif”?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/74 "2015-05-14T05:47:37Z")

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Super heroes and super agents beat up foes larger than themselves all the time. It’s not really realistic when male heroes do it either.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/75 "2015-05-14T06:28:08Z")

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Really! Must we do this stupid waif argument in every gods-damned AoS thread?!

Could we at least have two threads then? For example, the Game of Thrones TV show threads where one thread cannot even mention the existence of the books and another can include book spoilers. But in this case one thread can mention and rail on ad infinitum about Chloe Bennet’s waifness and in the other thread the word “waif” cannot even be used unless it refers to a small child with big eyes and wearing raggedy clothes that walks up to Coulson and says “Please sir, can I have some more”?

Sheesh! I forgot what I originally intended to post because I was so annoyed by this stupid argument yet again.:rolleyes:

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They missed a crossover opportunity here: when Cal got his mind wiped SHIELD should’ve made him the mayor of Portland.

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Really! Must we do this stupid waif argument in every gods-damned AoS thread?!

Hey, body-shaming women is a popular pastime!

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s02e21-s02e22-s-o-s-parts-1-and-2/719899/78 "2015-05-14T12:59:29Z")

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> [@Reluctant\_A](#):
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> So, basically, by that criteria, any woman cast in an action scene in Hollywood _but_ Adrianne Palicki is a “waif”?

A trope is a trope  
Don’t mope, don’t mope  
We’re sure to spot it on the Dope  
So I just hope  
That you learn to cope  
With its use by Joss Whedon

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Just watched this ep and last weeks as well

I felt a little bit underwhelemed over the cliffhanger ending, but knowing the series is coming back certainly helps.

I am going to miss Cal. He was my favorite character by far and I think he absolutely stole every scene he was in. Although free spaying and neutering on Saturdays? EVERY Saturday? That’s surgery, that shit costs money, no way that’s believable…

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Bob Barker is one of the hidden Directors of SHIELD!

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