# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S03E06:Among Us Hide... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581 "2015-11-04T01:54:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/41 "2015-11-05T14:20:53Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Have we considered the possibility that Lash killed the original Andrew and took his form? Nice. Hadn’t occurred to me but that works well if Lash is a generalized shapeshifter and why _couldn’t_ he be, really? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/42 "2015-11-05T14:25:55Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > That would get around the awful coincidence of the trusted SHIELD adviser being an evil Inhuman, who just happened to be married to a top agent. If Lash chose to impersonate Andrew so he could gain access to the intel I could buy that much more easily. > > He doesn’t even need to have killed Andrew, just held him captive somewhere. Why are people assuming he was an Inhuman before he joined SHIELD? Couldn’t he have turned from the fish oil? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/43 "2015-11-05T14:28:12Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > That’s really specific. > > I don’t get why there’s any debate about trying to get Will back however. He’s a fellow human trapped in a horrible, barely livable place. Phoenix is no paradise, but it is a lot nicer than planet Evil, so Hunter’s analogy sucks. Sure it may be impossible or cost prohibitive to get him back, but I don’t get why anyone would be opposed to researching it. Hunter is being a tad dickish and antsy and probably feels guilty about not managing to kill Ward (and jeopardizing Andrew in the process of not managing to kill Ward). He’s instantly bored after being benched by Coulson and wants to be involved in _something_, even if it takes the form of being toxic and annoying because he’s not really capable of _helping_ Fitz figure out the physics of retrieving Will. Frankly, he should take a beating from May as penance and then chill the fuck out. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/44 "2015-11-05T14:45:24Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Why are people assuming he was an Inhuman before he joined SHIELD? Couldn’t he have turned from the fish oil? An Inhuman is an Inhuman from birth. Whether they go through Terragenasis or not, they still carry the Inhuman genetics. The fish oil doesn’t affect you if you don’t already have that. If Andrew really is Lash, I don’t think it matters much if he went through Terragenasis before or after the fish oil incident. It’s still an awful coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/45 "2015-11-05T14:47:05Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > If Andrew really is Lash, I don’t think it matters much if he went through Terragenasis before or after the fish oil incident. It’s still an awful coincidence. Unless he’s a sleeper agent that the Inhumans decided to embed into SHIELD decades ago. Also an option. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/46 "2015-11-05T15:34:47Z")
Superpowered inhuman breaks into speeding truck, overpowers multiple highly-qualified government agents, kills his target, walks away, morphs into black guy, gets shot by city patrolman. Truly a tale old as time. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/47 "2015-11-05T20:44:03Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Superpowered inhuman breaks into speeding truck, overpowers multiple highly-qualified government agents, kills his target, walks away, morphs into black guy, gets shot by city patrolman. > > Truly a tale old as time. I laughed. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I find it nearly impossible to reconcile the character of Agent May (stern, cold, could kill you with her little finger) with the real life Ming-Na Wen (bright, bubbly, and ends nearly every sentence with an exclamation mark!!!) on twitter. My brain just won’t process it. Acting! ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/48 "2015-11-05T23:56:14Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Meh, the real Strucker kids would have been a lot cooler. Fraternal twins that have [del]mutant[/del] miracle :rolleyes: powers but only when they are in physical contact. When the sister dies, the brother has her skin removed and his costume lined with it so he can keep the powers. :eek: Wrong Strucker kids. Wolfgang von had _three_ kids - Andrea & Andreas, and their half-brother Werner von. > [@RikWriter](#): > > Why are people assuming he was an Inhuman before he joined SHIELD? Couldn’t he have turned from the fish oil? Since they made a point of having Andrew apologize to Melinda a few episodes ago for suddenly disappearing on her as they were trying to reconcile, it’s almost certain that they’re setting him up to have undergone fish oil Terrigenesis. ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/49 "2015-11-06T03:01:17Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > That’s really specific. > > I don’t get why there’s any debate about trying to get Will back however. I don’t know that there is serious debate, but the dramatic tension is fairly clear. Fitz loves/wants Simmons, but the only way to make her happy is to save the guy who ‘stole’ her from him. It’s not that \*someone \*shouldn’t go get him, but Fitz is realistically the only option, and to do it, he has to completely give up (and by proxy, us the viewers have to give up) the idea of he and Simmons being together. So, if Fitz’s fictional mind contemplates opening a portal, but setting it to puree Will as he comes through, let’s just say I would not be surprised. 🙂 Which is why I still hold out hope that Will is either dead and replaced by the monster or an inhuman projecting the monster unknowingly. Either one means he can get killed and we can go back to our FitzSimmons shipping. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/50 "2015-11-06T03:05:05Z")
> [@Stonebow](#): > > … So, if Fitz’s fictional mind contemplates opening a portal, but setting it to puree Will as he comes through, let’s just say I would not be surprised. 🙂 > > Which is why I still hold out hope that Will is either dead and replaced by the monster or an inhuman projecting the monster unknowingly. Either one means he can get killed and we can go back to our FitzSimmons shipping. > **[Die for Our Ship - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DieForOurShip)** > > Usually a character is hated for, well, their characteristics — he's annoying, he came in after the show Jumped the Shark, she's a raging Creator's Pet, he's the replacement of a fan favorite; the list goes on. But sometimes a character & … ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/51 "2015-11-06T04:18:04Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Have we considered the possibility that Lash killed the original Andrew and took his form? The more I think about this, the more I think it fits, judging from May’s reaction. If May thought Andrew had secretly been an inhuman for a long time and was now killing people and undermining SHIELD’s mission, she’d be _pissed_, probably even more than she was at Ward. Her reaction at Strucker’s account seems more sad than anything else. Possibly when she and Andrew were in Hawaii and seemed poised for a lasting reconciliation, he disappeared one night and when he came back he was distant and forgetful, possibly disinterested in (if not repulsed by) the idea of having sex with her again. She was irritated and angry, especially since he couldn’t or wouldn’t explain his change of mood. Now she’s sad because she’s realized _that wasn’t Andrew_. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/52 "2015-11-06T14:50:53Z")
Melinda only knows that Strucker said Andrew turned into something freaky. _She_ doesn’t actually get to watch the recap we see, to know that Andrew turned into Lash, specifically. Actually, since she’s been out of the loop with SHIELD lately, it’s not even clear that she knows about Lash. She’s been focused on Ward, and that probably what Hunter and Coulson would have talked to her about. The person she’d most likely have heard anything about Lash from would have been… Andrew. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/53 "2015-11-06T17:39:56Z")
…and now a little retrospection. I missed the “Devils You Know” episode a couple of weeks back. Hulu, being a typical evil Fox product, won’t put the episodes online until eight days after they’re broadcast. So I watched “4,722 Hours” before “Devils You Know”. On the one hand, it wasn’t that big a deal. “4,722 Hours” was pretty much self-contained so it’s probably the best episode to watch out of order. But going back and then watching “Devils You Know” after having already seen “4,722 Hours” revealed how threadbare the storyline was. There was no good reason why Simmons couldn’t have told everyone about Will right away. But the writers had to stretch it out for a couple of episodes just to fill time. And they’re doing this a lot. The pacing has become terrible. It seems like the writers have only enough ideas for about eight hours of show time but they’re contractually obligated to fill twenty hours. So everything is just dragged out. We get repetition, we get exposition, we get unnecessary obstruction - anything just to slow things down. ---
**Author:** ![Deser2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Deser2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deser2)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/54 "2015-11-06T20:24:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > …and now a little retrospection. > > I missed the “Devils You Know” episode a couple of weeks back. Hulu, being a typical evil Fox product, won’t put the episodes online until eight days after they’re broadcast. So I watched “4,722 Hours” before “Devils You Know”. > > On the one hand, it wasn’t that big a deal. “4,722 Hours” was pretty much self-contained so it’s probably the best episode to watch out of order. But going back and then watching “Devils You Know” after having already seen “4,722 Hours” revealed how threadbare the storyline was. There was no good reason why Simmons couldn’t have told everyone about Will right away. But the writers had to stretch it out for a couple of episodes just to fill time. > > And they’re doing this a lot. The pacing has become terrible. It seems like the writers have only enough ideas for about eight hours of show time but they’re contractually obligated to fill twenty hours. So everything is just dragged out. We get repetition, we get exposition, we get unnecessary obstruction - anything just to slow things down. I’m not sure why you’re only getting episodes 8 days after they air - mine show up on Hulu the day after. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/55 "2015-11-07T03:15:03Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > …and now a little retrospection. > > I missed the “Devils You Know” episode a couple of weeks back. Hulu, being a typical evil Fox product, won’t put the episodes online until eight days after they’re broadcast. So I watched “4,722 Hours” before “Devils You Know”. > > On the one hand, it wasn’t that big a deal. “4,722 Hours” was pretty much self-contained so it’s probably the best episode to watch out of order. But going back and then watching “Devils You Know” after having already seen “4,722 Hours” revealed how threadbare the storyline was. There was no good reason why Simmons couldn’t have told everyone about Will right away. But the writers had to stretch it out for a couple of episodes just to fill time. > > And they’re doing this a lot. The pacing has become terrible. It seems like the writers have only enough ideas for about eight hours of show time but they’re contractually obligated to fill twenty hours. So everything is just dragged out. We get repetition, we get exposition, we get unnecessary obstruction - anything just to slow things down. From what I understand there’s a lot of hand tying done by the network and Marvel Studios. For example–they knew from the beginning that they wanted Kyle McLaughlin to be Mr. Hyde and by extension Skye becoming Daisy but they couldn’t get the okay from the studio and that’s why they only call him “The Doctor” for the longest time. I can see pacing and treading water being an issue if they are constantly having to have contingencies and wait for permission from the higher ups. ---
**Author:** ![XaMcQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/f9ae1b/32.png) [@XaMcQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XaMcQ)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/56 "2015-11-08T04:31:19Z")
What did that final scene with Will throwing away the pistol mean? It seemed like the gun was empty, though he had told Jemma there was a single bullet left. So, if he used up that one bullet, either on himself on in an attempt to kill the whatever it was, does that indicate he’s dead and the thing has replaced him? Or did he throw the gun away to keep himself from using it to kill himself, as a gesture that he’s going to believe in Jemma finding a way to save him? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/57 "2015-11-08T05:54:15Z")
The was an audible gunshot as Simmons ran through the dust storm, which I took to mean Will was trying to kill whatever the hell that enemy was (personally, I’m a tad dubious about antagonists that are magically, seemingly supernaturally, evil). When the dust cleared, Will didn’t have Simmons, he didn’t have the bullet he’d been keeping as his final exit strategy, and the moment of sunlight was rapidly ending. Bummer, man. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/58 "2015-11-08T15:10:27Z")
> [@Deser2](#): > > I’m not sure why you’re only getting episodes 8 days after they air - mine show up on Hulu the day after. Do you have the Hulu pay service or the free one? I just checked Hulu (the free one) and the episode they currently have available is “4,722 Hours”. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/59 "2015-11-08T15:47:33Z")
Here’s a question - why does the team keep on ending up in Lisbon, Portugal? Last episode was like the fifth time someone flew out there. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581/60 "2015-11-08T16:58:33Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > The was an audible gunshot as Simmons ran through the dust storm, which I took to mean Will was trying to kill whatever the hell that enemy was (personally, I’m a tad dubious about antagonists that are magically, seemingly supernaturally, evil). > > When the dust cleared, Will didn’t have Simmons, he didn’t have the bullet he’d been keeping as his final exit strategy, and the moment of sunlight was rapidly ending. Bummer, man. It belatedly occurs to me that the last line should be “All bummer in a day, man.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s03e06-among-us-hide/736581.md?page=2)