# Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Season 1 Episode 2: 0-8-4 (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 2, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156 "2013-10-02T02:47:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/61 "2013-10-03T16:16:37Z")
Link to Fury’s cameo: > **[Check out the hilarious cameo from last night's Agents of SHIELD](https://gizmodo.com/check-out-the-hilarious-cameo-from-last-nights-agents-1439954538)** > > The funniest scene from Agents of SHIELD episode two was also the most surprising, as an unexpected character showed up. Check out the clip right here! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/62 "2013-10-03T16:20:41Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > It’s more like “a” Marvel Universe rather than “the” Marvel Universe. In the comics they’ve got 'em numbered. The usual one is universe 616. I do not recall the number of the “Ultimate” universe. This one’s another universe entirely. (Oh, and “666” is already taken.) It’s [199999](http://marvel.wikia.com/Earth-199999). ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/63 "2013-10-04T04:57:00Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Coulson needs to stop smirking. > > The rest of the cast is rather boring, though the girl nerd is quite attractive. Which one - Simmons or Skye? Simmons is cute as hell to me - bit of a Hermione vibe, some Willow in there, can wear a pair of jeans quite well (scene in the blown-out lab). I look forward to when we’re a few eps in and she and Fitz don’t have to be one-note characters anymore. Skye. Okay, there’s a few moments when it seems like the dialogue was written for Faith on BTVS, and she delivers it just like Dushku. The first time I noticed it was her in the Corvette with Coulson when she said “Not really a team player.” Maybe all duplicitous brunettes sound the same in the Whedonverse… And you know how we know she’s a brilliant hacker? They keep telling us. Of course, that may be a good idea since nothing about the character says “I’m a brilliant but dysfunctional geek who lives in a van.” (Brilliant: she hacked SHIELD twice. Geek: computer hacker- how 80s. Everyone else is trying to start the next Facebook or vlogging on Youtube. Dysfunctional: she lives in a van. A van well-stocked with hair and make-up products, a good-sized wardrobe, and a _single laptop_, mind, but still she’s supposed to be just this side of homeless. She’s not even _tv_ gritty. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/64 "2013-10-04T05:30:29Z")
Skye’s not just a hacker, she’s a bleeding heart hacktivist. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/65 "2013-10-04T08:30:36Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > It’s [199999](http://marvel.wikia.com/Earth-199999). Heh. According to that link, the university that Jane Foster and Erik Selvig are associated with (in _Thor_) is the same university with Betty Ross (in _The Incredible Hulk_). Selvig did mention in _Thor_ that he had known Bruce Banner (though he doesn’t mention Banner by name), but I didn’t take that to mean they both worked at the same university. Also, I didn’t even assume that Selvig and Foster worked at the same university. She was a former student and had gone on to a university position of her own but I didn’t assume that meant she held her position at the same university where she had studied under him. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/66 "2013-10-04T10:38:13Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Heh, I wonder if British viewers are sitting around discussing how incomprensible everyone but Fitz and Simmons are.\* > > \*Just kidding; I’m aware a Scots accent may be incomprensible to someone from southern England as well. As an adopted Londoner I had no trouble with their accents at all. Watch \*Taggart \*sometime and then talk to me about Scottish accents. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/67 "2013-10-04T15:39:35Z")
I find that I dislike everything Whedony about this series, from the rapid-fire whitticisms to the ‘secret badass’-females; either it’s just played out for me, or it’s not terribly well done in this one. Also, I’m somewhat taken aback by the ‘we’re keeping things secret from the public, and that’s a good thing’-angle they seem to be taking—especially in light of the recent issues with keeping stuff from the public in the real world, going against the grain of bringing things out into the open in mystery shows/films seems a somewhat strange decision. ---
**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/68 "2013-10-04T15:50:23Z")
Agreed mostly- but “If I need a gun, I’ll take one” is a pretty awesome line. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/69 "2013-10-04T15:54:09Z")
OK it is only two episodes in but, as someone that regularly buys Marvel comics and loves the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I am really quite disappointed so far. Frankly it is all a bit boring. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/70 "2013-10-04T16:05:25Z")
I forgot how much I love Isabella Rossellini. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/71 "2013-10-04T17:00:36Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > I find that I dislike everything Whedony about this series, from the rapid-fire whitticisms to the ‘secret badass’-females; either it’s just played out for me, or it’s not terribly well done in this one. Okay, we’ll just have to agree that you’re wrong 😉 (sorry, no real snark intended; just wanted to respond in a Whedonesque way) > [@](#): > > Also, I’m somewhat taken aback by the ‘we’re keeping things secret from the public, and that’s a good thing’-angle they seem to be taking—especially in light of the recent issues with keeping stuff from the public in the real world, going against the grain of bringing things out into the open in mystery shows/films seems a somewhat strange decision. Interesting point. I mean, “Good Secret Guys” is SHIELD’s stock in trade. I am not up on the past couple of decades of comics, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this conflict has cropped up. How has it been handled in the comics world? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/72 "2013-10-04T18:27:13Z")
Men In Black had the best explanation for the reasoning behind keeping the extraterrestial world secret --paraphrasing “An individual can be smart and rational, a group of people can be an idiotic mob.” I think we need to see a big bad for the season soon and to see more of how the Battle of New York actually affected the world. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/73 "2013-10-04T18:27:26Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > I forgot how much I love Isabella Rossellini. I love her too but she wasn’t in the show. Or is this a non sequitur? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/74 "2013-10-04T18:31:07Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I love her too but she wasn’t in the show. Or is this a non sequitur? Oh good; so it wasn’t just me. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/75 "2013-10-04T18:33:19Z")
It’d always just you. We just pretend otherwise. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/76 "2013-10-04T18:34:09Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > It’d always just you. We just pretend otherwise. 😛 Story of my life, man. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/77 "2013-10-04T18:36:06Z")
The whole, “Trust us, we’re the good guys,” schtick is a little hard to swallow, in light of the fact that in the movie, SHIELD tried to nuke New York City. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/78 "2013-10-04T18:49:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The whole, “Trust us, we’re the good guys,” schtick is a little hard to swallow, in light of the fact that in the movie, SHIELD tried to nuke New York City. Come on now they would have nuked New York but saved the world. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/79 "2013-10-04T19:02:25Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I love her too but she wasn’t in the show. Or is this a non sequitur? Nevermind, I’m retarded. I’m thinking of The Black List. I got my shows confused. This is what happens when you drink kids. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156/80 "2013-10-04T19:06:13Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The whole, “Trust us, we’re the good guys,” schtick is a little hard to swallow, in light of the fact that in the movie, SHIELD tried to nuke New York City. That was the World Security Council (no idea who they represent). SHIELD answers to them but we’ve seen two occasions in which SHIELD sabotaged the execution of orders it was given by the Council. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-season-1-episode-2-0-8-4-spoilers/670156.md?page=5)