# Agents of SHIELD: S4 E5 "Lockup" 10/25/2016

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 26, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748 "2016-10-26T03:00:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/1 "2016-10-26T03:00:37Z")

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The SHIELD team goes into a prison to get Robbie’s uncle but Lucy and the Peanuts gang get there first.

We start with backstory on the discovery of the Darkhold. In Russia, Darkhold reads you. Apparently the book is smarter than most agents. Since when is Daisy the voice of reason? Still full of angst, though. FitzSimmons has relationship problems and she’s bad at lying.

Nice wrist SHIELD shield, Coulson. Mack is a pretty good logistics. Fitz isn’t a fan of American football. The Director is calling out Simmons, but it’s clearly a swerve. Robbie is a bit of a hot head. (ha!) Ah, release the Watchhounds!

The shotgun axe really isn’t that practical. Ghost Rider with chains is pretty cool. Self-injection, go Mack. The Director needs Simmons for a brain dump. Daisy with a death wish? Either she’s going to use her powers and mess herself up or she’s got a plan. Or both.

So Daisy is the new Cavalry? She’s a master of tray warfare. OK, the director has revealed himself on national TV. Finally, the axe gets used. And we’re going to test whether Robbie is in control of Ghost Rider or the other way around. Well, I guess it’s the other way around. Lucy is smarter than your average ghost. Well played Simmons! She’s good. But what was the lie? Coulson saved May, he can save Daisy, but she’s still wallowing in self-pity. Meanwhile, back at Millenium… Why did she need Eli? I wonder if Robbie will have to save/kill his uncle?

What do you want?

“Thoughts, feelings? This is a safe space.”  
“Want to go to prison? It could be Taco Tuesday.”  
“It was a death experience. I’m over it.”  
“Oh hell”  
“Stop whining”  
“Also, we’re live in 15 minutes”  
“I saw you, Phil. Don’t let it go to your head.”  
“I invented that move.”

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/2 "2016-10-26T15:04:16Z")

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Was the broadcast for this episode postponed until three in the morning in any other market (Atlanta)?

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/3 "2016-10-27T16:22:52Z")

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Of all the ways to describe Ghost Rider, ‘cold-blooded killer’ has to be the worst.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/4 "2016-10-27T17:06:29Z")

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Not sure what the backstory on Robbie and Gabe being the victims of a contracted hit is all about, and why would Robbie kill the only person left with a connection to help answer the question? He’s killed everyone in the gang now, but it’s just pushed the need for retribution one level higher. Any guess how this ties into things?

Director Mace is being effectively blackmailed by Senator Nadeer. You’d think that he’d have at least a little better plan even if he was surprised by the video. We still have no idea what her deal is as she’s got a brother at home going through terragenisis, she’s publicly very anti-Inhuman, and she appears to be using the Watchdogs for her own ends.

Ming-Na Wen (May) and Parminder Nagra (Nadeer) were in ER together for two years - it would be nice if there was a little shout out to that when they finally meet on screen.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/5 "2016-10-27T18:02:06Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Ming-Na Wen (May) and Parminder Nagra (Nadeer) were in ER together for two years - it would be nice if there was a little shout out to that when they finally meet on screen.

Maybe that’s where May ends up sending her?

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/6 "2016-10-27T18:34:19Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> “I saw you, Phil. Don’t let it go to your head.”

Also when she closes the lid to her dumpster:  
“You couldn’t have thought of that before I jumped in the garbage?”

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/7 "2016-11-05T15:40:02Z")

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No thread for the latest ep? Should this become a season thread?

Not sure what to make of Director Mace. At first I didn’t like him, then he seemed cool, now he’s sort of a dick again. Where did he send Simmons?

Liked the reveal that the original Ghost Rider \*did \*ride a motorcycle.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-s4-e5-lockup-10-25-2016/769748/8 "2016-11-13T15:05:06Z")

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So, Eli Morrow is Molecule Man now?
