# Agents of SHIELD - Season 7 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097 "2020-06-05T14:33:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/121 "2020-08-11T20:48:31Z")
Ghost Rider - they named dropped him a few times this season, maybe we see him again. Bobbi and Hunter - not likely ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/122 "2020-08-11T21:17:15Z")
re: Bobbi and Hunter Adrianne Palicki said publicly that she would have returned, but they didn’t ask. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/123 "2020-08-11T23:31:00Z")
Yeah, I read that but things can change. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/124 "2020-08-12T16:19:39Z")
Yeah, and Lucifer wasn’t going to be in the Arrowverse crossover, either. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/125 "2020-08-13T12:49:34Z")
Well, I liked it, though it was annoying they basically stole the Endgame plot, even though the series diverged from the MCU back around season 3. Nice callback having a very young Agent Hand kill John Garrett (I know, Grant killed her back in season 1, but it was still funny). Making all the Chronicoms become friends was a bit silly. And damn it, if you’re going to kill off a character, commit! Having Daisy resurrected 30 seconds after her sacrifice was just dumb. It would have been more believable for her to have an escape plan after she killed Malick. But all that’s forgivable to get an episode of Fitz. And Deke’s impersonation of Fitz was priceless. The car was cool. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/126 "2020-08-13T14:01:41Z")
I liked it too. I was expecting bittersweet, but compared to how the show usually rolls, this was just plain sweet, almost no bitter at all. I wouldn’t say they stole the Endgame plot. They stole the quantum realm aspect (did Fitz independently re-create Pym particles?) and Fitz’s reading of the timestream to find the only answer was a bit too on-the-nose with Dr. Strange’s ☝, but there was no Time Heist, which for me was the central plot to Endgame. Agreed that it was nice to see Agent Hand kill Garrett, but I would have liked it better if it didn’t seem so unprovoked. He should have done something threatening, and then gotten shot for it, IMHO. I believe that “dying” and being ressurected by Kora _was_ the escape plan, though kind of a stupid one, since there was no evidence Kora could do such a thing. (Did Fitz figure that out from the timestream somehow?) I LOVED that we finally got an explanation of the blue-suited agents from the temple. I was not expecting that. I’m not sure how I feel about this idea of shifting between timelines. It’s novel, in that I don’t recall seeing the idea anywhere in a serious setting. (i.e. not Community) But it does kind of make a lot of the Quantum Leap shenanigans of the season moot. I do really like that they weren’t willing to abandon the “bad” timeline to its fate. That’s the SHIELD I root for. I did love seeing Fitz again, though the total amnesia storyline for Jemma seemed a little superfluous, and robbed us of a real good and cathartic reunion hug. So how did my predictions go… - Fitz and Simmons did live happily ever after. twice. Yay! - I guess Flint is old enough to not really need “raising”, but it was good to seem him. - Coulson lives! Seemed like some promise of sparks with May, but not the Philinda ending I’d hoped for. (We’ll always have Season 5, I guess) - Sousa follows Daisy, yay! but it looks like SWORD, not the Avengers. I’ll take it. (I wish Fury had a cameo, though) - Deke indeed dekes. - I was off by 1! Flint, Piper, Hand, and Davis! - Got the two easy ones right, but never would have guessed the other two. (Does Davis’s kid get their dad back as a robot now?) - Aside from Kora dying, I got this one. (admittedly easy) - no timeline collapsing, and no Endgame/Blip mention… sigh… - no, we did not find those out, but hey, Davis can tell us now! (in the unlikely event he ever shows up anywhere again) ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/127 "2020-08-13T16:28:22Z")
I found the whole endings just… depressing. They all had no joy in them, and I don’t know if it was because of the actors, or the storyline. Nice seeing the helicarrier, though. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/128 "2020-08-13T17:36:47Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > I liked it too. I was expecting bittersweet, but compared to how the show usually rolls, this was just plain sweet, almost no bitter at all. I wouldn’t say they stole the Endgame plot. They stole the quantum realm aspect (did Fitz independently re-create Pym particles?) and Fitz’s reading of the timestream to find the only answer was a bit too on-the-nose with Dr. Strange’s ☝, but there was no Time Heist, which for me was the central plot to Endgame. Except that the entire series was essentially a Time Heist, to get Kora instead of the Infinity Stones. > [@gonzoron](#): > > I guess Flint is old enough to not really need “raising”, but it was good to seem him. May is kind of “raising” him, since she’s now a SHIELD instructor. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/129 "2020-08-14T01:05:39Z")
…Agent Davis LIVES!!! I have to admit that the return of Agent Davis (as well as seeing Agent Piper in this and last weeks episode) was probably my favourite thing. It underscores the best thing about Agents of Shield for me: its the characters. It certainly isn’t the plot for me: (I can barely remember what this season was all about, let alone what happened a few years ago) but these characters: flaws in all, are some of my favourite on TV. I love how far they have all come. But I love Agent Coulson most of all. He has always been my favourite MCU character, and seeing him with Lola, about to head out on another adventure, was the perfect ending. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/130 "2020-08-14T11:06:44Z")
So, a comment and two questions: Nice to see emo May revert to cavalry form for one last hurrah. I liked her growth and I’m certain she’s done some fighting since becoming an empath, but a nice callback. Q1: Simmons made a comment to Daisy about anatomy studies - it seemed portentous, but could have just been a throw-away line? Possibly to show that while Fitz has retired she is still working? Q2: Is there some comic-book significance to Lola reconfiguring and changing color? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/131 "2020-08-16T02:58:13Z")
I liked it but it was hard to live up to expectations. Too many happy endings, and no long term consequences of anyone’s actions. But it was fun, and the humor really clicked. Nathaniel was a lousy baddy, Sybil was more interesting but poorly used, IMO. What worked, seeing the whole plan unfold and understanding all the references. The blood test was a pregnancy test, all the pieces dropped off by Enoch throughout time. Hand killing Garrett. The inevitable arc of Kora turning to the good side - Daisy getting a family. I would have liked better resolution to some of the relationships. Sure, Fitz and Simmons was fine, but no Philinda? Nothing interesting happened with Mack/Yo-yo or Daisy/Souza - they’re pretty much exactly as they were before the recent events. Overall, I was satisfied. The final round table was cute, but didn’t really add anything. Still, it was nice to confirm everyone’s happy ending. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/132 "2020-08-16T11:33:26Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > I’m going to go with “bloodwork” shows Jemma is pregnant; she and Fitz stay in the future until baby is born, and Jemma doesn’t want to forget that she even has a baby, along with forgetting where Fitz is, so she’s very sad. Called it! ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/133 "2020-08-16T14:28:04Z")
I enjoyed this season with all the adventures in different time periods. Enoch was treated like a dogsbody. He’s the only one that made a lasting sacrifice yet, as a chronicon, he would have been the easiest one to bring back from the dead. So, Deke kills Malick in cold blood, Mack has a couple seconds of stern words, then it’s pretty much forgotten about. Even his son seems indifferent. They made a mess of that time line in order to fix their own, yet they seem to be saying that timeline is still going. How is Daisy still alive? That’s the biggest thing I don’t get. She should be as dead as you can get, and that actually seems to have been their plan. At best there should have been a chard piece of human bone floating in space that might belong to her. Either blow her to smithereens or give her a happy ending. Don’t do both. Mac looks like the new Nick Fury. I wouldn’t mind seeing him the movies. There should have been more head of Shield in the movies. But with having to hide Coulson and Samuel L Jackson being out things ended weird. It did give Black Widow her second best moment in the movies but she had other things to do. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/134 "2020-08-16T14:40:05Z")
So Deke is a tech genius, rockstar, head of a heroic agency - he just needs to do a little brain surgery and he’ll be Buckaroo Banzai ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/135 "2020-08-16T20:43:30Z")
P.S. I loved John Garrett’s beautifully insincere smile as he tried to convince SHIELD that he was now a good guy. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/136 "2020-08-16T21:33:11Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > She should be as dead as you can get, and that actually seems to have been their plan. They showed Kora trying to raise Jiyiang when her neck was broken, so they at least laid the groundwork for her powers having some sort of Lazarus effect. Maybe it worked for Daisy because she had been stored in the refrigerator of space? And, yeah, tissue damage from freezing, blah, blah, blah. But I agree it would have been better story-telling to leave her dead. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/137 "2020-08-17T00:45:24Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > How is Daisy still alive? > That’s the biggest thing I don’t get. She should be as dead as you can get, She had shown earlier that she can use her Quake powers to shield herself from fire. So she can still get thrown by a blast, but basically protect herself in a shell, at least for a few moments before losing consciousness. And her being salvageable out in space is consistent with _Guardians Of The Galaxy_’s rules. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/138 "2020-08-17T14:38:42Z")
Apparently there were about 20 minutes of the finale cut for time, including a longer goodbye for Deke and at least some reference to Thanos/Endgame. Hopefully it will get released. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/139 "2020-08-17T17:24:12Z")
Oh man, that would be great to see. In my personal fanfic version, I would have had Coulson go over to the bar of the speakeasy, grab some sliced lemons from the garnish drawer and scoop them into a glass to hand to Deke on the way out. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097/140 "2020-08-18T01:50:06Z")
I very much enjoyed this season as you could tell the writers were just having fun. I was hoping to cry at the end and I didn’t. I’m glad that no one died (save for Deke but he doesn’t REEAALLYY count) but I was hoping for a bit more sweetness other than just “happily ever after”. My line with SHIELD was that it would be a pretty good show, then get really stupid but then get soooooo damn good. I probably watched it more out of attrition than because I couldn’t miss an episode…but I’m really going to miss that show. I enjoyed the characters, I enjoyed the plotting and I enjoyed everyone’s relationship to everyone. Hopefully this isn’t the end of Coulson or Daisy in the Marvel Universe [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-season-7/855097.md?page=8)