# Agents of SHIELD: Shadows S02E01 \[open spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 23, 2014, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339 "2014-09-23T12:59:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/81 "2014-09-26T02:57:40Z")
Talking to a fellow believer that over-specialization is a bad thing, she told how a geekish girlfriend who wore an Avengers T-shirt on a blind date. “He’ll have to accept my nerdy side, too,” assuming he was a Normal. Rhut-rho! I knew how this would end! Yep, he was a DC fan and the conversation deteriorated from there. There will be no crossover babies from them. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/82 "2014-09-26T13:38:20Z")
So we have two Hulk Nemeses: Glen Talbot and The Absorbing Man. How long before we get a visit from the Big Guy himself? > [@dropzone](#): > > Talking to a fellow believer that over-specialization is a bad thing, she told how a geekish girlfriend who wore an Avengers T-shirt on a blind date. “He’ll have to accept my nerdy side, too,” assuming he was a Normal. Rhut-rho! I knew how this would end! Yep, he was a DC fan and the conversation deteriorated from there. There will be no crossover babies from them. I like to send my sons out in their Justice League and Avengers tee shirts. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/83 "2014-09-26T14:23:58Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I like to send my sons out in their Justice League and Avengers tee shirts. We were on the commuter line last Saturday, which was apparently stopping at Beerfest, so we had a large contingent of already-drunk 20-somethings with us. One was wearing a Captain America body shirt. The other was wearing a Hulk bodyshirt… and carrying Thor’s hammer. I spent the ride trying to figure out which 2-1/2 Avengers we had with us. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/84 "2014-09-26T16:15:09Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > So we have two Hulk Nemeses: Glen Talbot and The Absorbing Man. Creel was originally one of _Thor_’s rogues gallery: he got his powers because Loki slipped him an Asgardian “herb”. He didn’t start fighting Hulk until later, and really he’s faced a wide variety of Marvel heroes, including the Avengers and Spider-Man and others. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/85 "2014-09-26T17:17:23Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The guards on Creel’s cell deserved whatever happened to them. What idiots. Not to mentioned they violated about a billion Standing Orders and Prisoner protocols. I don’t know anything about real prisoner protocols, but you’d think that number one on the list when you’re guarding super-powered individuals would be “Don’t open the cell door!” > [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I do also wish they’d get away from naming the character as an aside and then never referring to it again, that’s becoming a played out trope in comic book movies/TV shows. Last night they had Lucy Lawless mention “that Absorbing Man” and then they never went back to it. I personally prefer that. It’s a nice shout-out to the comic fans, but we don’t have a lot of characters running around with silly comic-book names. (And I say that as a comic fan.) ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/86 "2014-09-26T17:51:27Z")
Originally Posted by Intergalactic Gladiator > [@](#): > > I do also wish they’d get away from naming the character as an aside and then never referring to it again, that’s becoming a played out trope in comic book movies/TV shows. Last night they had Lucy Lawless mention “that Absorbing Man” and then they never went back to it. > [@FlyingDragonFan](#): > > I personally prefer that. It’s a nice shout-out to the comic fans, but we don’t have a lot of characters running around with silly comic-book names. (And I say that as a comic fan.) Ehh, I wish they would be better at it then a nudging, winking reference to the character’s comic counterpart. I thought this one with Absorbing Man was fairly weak as in “Hey fans, we know his name, he is an Absorbing Man. Huh? Huh?” Some of the movies are worse, Nolan couldn’t even call Catwoman by her name and they were pretty wishy washy about calling Superman by his. Compare that to the end of Iron Man where Stark comes out and says “I am Iron Man.” That’s a pretty awesome scene that isn’t diluted by him winking and going “I’m an Iron Man, get it?” ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/87 "2014-09-26T23:46:31Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > A few SRS (past SHIELD) agents steal the obelisk from the agent, and swap witty comebacks. They pack it up to never see the light of day. Hey! Those agents seem pretty charming. It would be neat if they were able to star in a show of their own. One can only dream. > _\_ > Agent Carter? I’m looking forward to it. Please more Neal McDonough. > [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > I’ll second or third or whatever the Agent Carter love, and add my joy that Neal McDonough seems to be on-board. Will watch! > [@randwill](#): > > Those were the Howling Commandos at the very beginning, right? > [@Telemark](#): > > Correct, that was Dum Dum Dugan in the Bowler hat and Agent Peggy Carter in charge. [Jim Morita](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters:_M#Jim_Morita) was also in that opening scene with actor Kenneth Choi reprising his role from _Captain America_ as well! He was my second favorite of the film version of the Howling Commandos (Yes, Dum Dum was my favorite just like the rest of you). ---
**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/88 "2014-09-27T02:12:20Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Frankly I’m giving up on it. > It a fun show but without the background of having read the comic books it’s more work than it’s worth trying to keep all this shit straight. > > Hope that doesn’t come off as shitting because I really think it’s a neat show, it’s just apparently not for me since I’m constantly confused about WTH is going on. I feel the same way. I come here to see who it was I was supposed to recognize. I’m still enjoying the show though. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/89 "2014-09-27T02:19:56Z")
I haven’t read the comic books and I don’t find anything confusing. You know, it’s okay if you don’t know who a new character is when they first show up–you just watch and find out. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/90 "2014-09-27T14:51:21Z")
> [@FlyingDragonFan](#): > > I don’t know anything about real prisoner protocols, but you’d think that number one on the list when you’re guarding super-powered individuals would be “Don’t open the cell door!” Or, well, common sense really. But I’m not sure they really knew he was super-powered, and even if they did, remember, they’re the stupid good guys fighting the smart good guys out of misunderstood duty, so they must bungle up sometimes so the smart good guys have something to fix. I’m not sure the following is a spoiler, but since it might contain information relevant to other Marvel films perhaps not everybody’s seen yet, I’ll take no chances: [SPOILER]So, is this obelisk thing going to turn out to be related to the infinity gems/infinity gauntlet? It doesn’t seem to fit any of the ones listed on [wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Gems), but they kinda retconned the tesseract/cosmic cube as being one of them, too… Also, it’s clear that with the combination of strange, mysterious artefact with unknown properties and a guy with the ability to absorb the properties of whatever he touches, sooner or later Creel will absorb the obelisk’s powers, and then there’s this line from his wikipedia article: [ [QUOTE=wikipedia] After a defeat, Creel escapes prison and absorbs a shard of the artifact the Cosmic Cube. [/QUOTE] ](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorbing_Man) So there’s some precedent for a connection between him and the infinity gems (as they are in the movies).[/SPOILER] ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339/91 "2014-09-27T21:13:27Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > The full season pickup was announced on October 10, after the third episode aired. It was one of the _first_ full season pickups announced last season. I think only **The Blacklist** was picked up sooner last season. Hmm, I maybe was thinking of the 2nd season renewal not being announced until May (which is late for a “bulletproof” show) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/agents-of-shield-shadows-s02e01-open-spoilers/699339.md?page=4)