# Aging Plastic Surgery **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 18, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873 "2009-03-18T12:54:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/1 "2009-03-18T12:54:08Z")
I was doing some … research on Shauna Sand, a former Playboy model. Her Wiki-Page is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shauna\_Sand#Personal\_life](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shauna_Sand#Personal_life) The tiny photo there does not do her justice. I cannot recall anyone looking worse because of her plastic surgery. (I am sure there are some, but still.) She was born in '71, so figure she had he boos, face and everything else done in '91. **Does all plastic surgery age poorly? Have there been studies of this? Does modern surgery do better than her work did.** Scary stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/2 "2009-03-18T13:03:30Z")
Looking at some larger photos, [like this one](http://www.makemeheal.com/news/images/shauna-sand-plastic-surgery.jpg) (SFW), I’d personally just venture to guess that she’s just naturally thin and so once she started to hit ~40 her face started to look a bit angular and that doesn’t mesh well with a whole lot of purple makeup and slanted, painted on eyebrows. Outside of her lips and breasts, she doesn’t really look all that much different from what I can tell–except older. Personally I like the angular, matronly look. But the excessive makeup is making it a bit fake looking instead of graceful. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/3 "2009-03-18T13:07:01Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > I cannot recall anyone looking worse because of her plastic surgery. (I am sure there are some, but still.) Michael Jackson would be Exhibit A. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/4 "2009-03-18T13:08:14Z")
Addendum: [Another pic, with less makeup](http://blogs.lasvegasmagazine.com/VegasLuxeLife/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/shauna-sand-co-tvt.jpg) (~SFW?) I might venture to guess that she’s probably also spent more time in the sun than most people these days. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/5 "2009-03-18T13:37:12Z")
But look at this one, puffy, yet thin lips, unrealistic breasts (I presume they looked better in earlier years). More than a little gruesome. Is this typical? [http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/PaulinSaudi/05502\_Celebutopia-Shauna\_Sand\_in\_wh.jpg](http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/PaulinSaudi/05502_Celebutopia-Shauna_Sand_in_wh.jpg) (SFW) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/6 "2009-03-18T13:49:40Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > But look at this one, puffy, yet thin lips, unrealistic breasts (I presume they looked better in earlier years). More than a little gruesome. Is this typical? Personally I don’t think that the fake lips and fake boobs look all that good on anyone of any age. But think of it this way, if you put Brad Pit in a 70’s style leisure suit with huge sunglasses, ala Ocean’s 11, he’ll look cool and retro. You put Danny Devito in that same look and he’ll look like crap. Or another example, you put hip huggers on a 16 year old with a perfect body and she’ll look good to you. Put a 30 year old with love handles in it, and you’ll suddenly notice how the hip huggers really just accentuate all the _wrong things_. People often say that you need a particular body to pull off a certain look. Most of the time, these people are wrong though. What’s really happening is that the look sucks, it just has all the wrong lines and colors, but we all ignore it because the person is obviously hawt and because we’ve been acclimated to that look enough. Our brain reinterprets it to look good even though it really isn’t. If you look at a picture 20 years later, you’ll always notice how much those clothes really looked _bad_. They did, but at the time, you didn’t care. So my point is, the exagerated boobs and lips were never good, but when she was a sweet young thang, your brain overlooked it because that’s what it does. Now her body just isn’t the sort that can pull that look off. And unfortunately, she may be stuck with it (at least the boobs.) ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/7 "2009-03-18T13:51:18Z")
I’d hit it. ---
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/8 "2009-03-18T14:14:02Z")
Me too. With a crowbar. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/9 "2009-03-18T14:58:10Z")
[Jocelyn Wildenstein](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-516768/Is-scariest-picture-EVER-Bride-Wildenstein.html) exists on this planet and you think Shauna Sand is the person who looks worst because of her plastic surgery? ---
**Author:** ![KnitWit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@KnitWit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KnitWit)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/10 "2009-03-18T15:22:55Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > [Jocelyn Wildenstein](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-516768/Is-scariest-picture-EVER-Bride-Wildenstein.html) exists on this planet and you think Shauna Sand is the person who looks worst because of her plastic surgery? Oh my god. I’m 39 and I was considering Botox. Until I saw this photo. Seriously, it’s such a disgusting freakshow horror that I’m now pleased with my faint frown line. Ack. What doctor would DO such a thing? How can this be ethical? ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/11 "2009-03-18T15:31:02Z")
> [@KnitWit](#): > > Oh my god. I’m 39 and I was considering Botox. Until I saw this photo. Seriously, it’s such a disgusting freakshow horror that I’m now pleased with my faint frown line. Ack. What doctor would DO such a thing? How can this be ethical? Well, she really wanted eight babies but settled for plastic surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/12 "2009-03-18T15:31:11Z")
Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/13 "2009-03-18T16:08:30Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > [Jocelyn Wildenstein](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-516768/Is-scariest-picture-EVER-Bride-Wildenstein.html) exists on this planet and you think Shauna Sand is the person who looks worst because of her plastic surgery? I was going to bring her into this conversation but I couldn’t bring myself to search for pictures. Shauna Sands is really not a bad case; there are dozens worse then her at any Hollywood opening night. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/14 "2009-03-18T16:23:46Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Well, she really wanted eight babies but settled for plastic surgery. Hee! ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/15 "2009-03-18T18:04:50Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > [Jocelyn Wildenstein](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-516768/Is-scariest-picture-EVER-Bride-Wildenstein.html) exists on this planet and you think Shauna Sand is the person who looks worst because of her plastic surgery? Thanks! Now I can skip lunch… ---
**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/16 "2009-03-18T18:48:02Z")
IMHO, only bad/overdone plastic surgery is noticeable. You don’t notice the appropriately done plastic surgery. I have my chin and nose done and both look completely natural and “normal”. I shopped around and found the surgeon who would tweak my nose, not give me the nose everyone else had. He also was one of the few surgeons around who wouldn’t give me just a chin implant, but re-shape the bone itself to make a more natural look. He specializes in cranio-facial reconstruction, not cosmetic procedures, but does both. My MIL had a face-lift, she still has wrinkles and lines, she just has less of them. She has also had botox and it all looks good on her and not overdone. My aunt has had a few surgeries as well and looks great. As long as you don’t overdo it or ask the surgeon to do the impossible you are ok. ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/17 "2009-03-18T19:03:36Z")
AS it happens, my Ophthalmalogist has turned me over to an Associate with an eye towards correcting my baggy and severely drooping eyelids. I have teeny weeny slits for eyes these days, thanks to a medication I have to be on. I go in for a consultation on 3/26. Surgery after that - provided my plan will cover it. I’ll be 75 this month, so I guess I’ll see how it comes out age-wise. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/18 "2009-03-18T21:16:36Z")
> [@KnitWit](#): > > Oh my god. I’m 39 and I was considering Botox. Until I saw this photo. Nothing wrong with a little botox applied correctly. Marination does not qualify as being applied correctly. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/19 "2009-03-18T21:17:05Z")
This [http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/) is really all you need to know about getting “improved”. And these people went to the expensive well-known Doctors. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873/20 "2009-03-19T03:27:35Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > This [http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/) is really all you need to know about getting “improved”. I’m pretty convinced that three-quarters of the photos on that site are just age and makeup. The author is convinced that everything he sees is plastic surgery based on a few badly lit photos. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aging-plastic-surgery/489873.md?page=2)