# Ah, Ilsa\_Lund, you fucking LIAR!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546 "2004-12-07T14:52:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/21 "2004-12-07T17:01:03Z")

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> [@AngelicGemma](#):
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> Shh! You’ll upset **Nocturnal\_Tick**!

What has two thumbs and doesn’t really care?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/22 "2004-12-07T17:01:59Z")

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This OP sucks shit.

First rule of pitting someone: choose your example(s) carefully. You offer exactly one example of why **Ilsa\_Lund** is the bane of your existence and it’s a forgettable joke which you didn’t even get. This makes you look like a dumbass with a stick up his ass.

Second rule of pitting someone: admit when you’re wrong. Don’t fall back on defensive “well, he does a lot of other stuff too!” It makes you look stupid, especially if you’re too fucking lazy to dig up links so we can all see what behavior is annoying you. A vague rant without links makes you look like a crazy homeless man arguing with himself.

In summary: your OP sucked and you are a lazy turd.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/23 "2004-12-07T17:03:02Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> He’s a _Showgirls_ defender. That should tell you all you need to know.
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> 🙂

_Showgirls sympathizer_ sounds more damning.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/24 "2004-12-07T17:10:04Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> This OP sucks shit.  
> First rule of pitting someone: choose your example(s) carefully. You offer exactly one example of why **Ilsa\_Lund** is the bane of your existence and it’s a forgettable joke which you didn’t even get. This makes you look like a dumbass with a stick up his ass.
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> Second rule of pitting someone: admit when you’re wrong. Don’t fall back on defensive “well, he does a lot of other stuff too!” It makes you look stupid, especially if you’re too fucking lazy to dig up links so we can all see what behavior is annoying you. A vague rant without links makes you look like a crazy homeless man arguing with himself.
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> In summary: your OP sucked and you are a lazy turd.

WAAAAAAAAAAA! Go look for a cite yourself fuckbake, I fail to see what’s vague about my OP. Its all there, in various threads. Rather than being lazy, perhaps i’m too busy at work to trawl through fuck knows how many threads. Try taking my post as my cite, cunto, instead of being a lazy fucker yourself.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/25 "2004-12-07T17:14:34Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Don’t talk shit little boy. You neither killed your cat or were installing a new bowl. Oh wait! with an IQ of 214, perhaps you were! While in Ireland! Or New Zealand! Or between Races in your career as a Championship Driver! Or while at college when you were 12! Who knows?
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> Me. You’re a fucking liar kid. And stop arguing with people who know their shit back to front ( **Colibri** ). Stick to being in the waste of bandwidth Doper Brat crowd where I can’t see you. And stop following **Diogenes** around with your tongue in his arse, ditto for Moderators. You’re that little human ratboy in cartoons that follows the fucking bad guy around going ‘yes boss’.
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> And think on: The Beatles are not the be all and end all of everything, and Showgirls is an entertaining Hollywood film with shitty acting, not the pinnacle of irony in modern film.
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> Step outside your bedroom, try and talk your parents into letting you out once in a while, and breathe the fresh air. And stop living in a bullshit land of make believe. Liar. Give me a break.

Aren’t you being just a bit begrudgeous?

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/26 "2004-12-07T17:19:16Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> WAAAAAAAAAAA! Go look for a cite yourself fuckbake, I fail to see what’s vague about my OP. Its all there, in various threads. Rather than being lazy, perhaps i’m too busy at work to trawl through fuck knows how many threads. Try taking my post as my cite, cunto, instead of being a lazy fucker yourself.

You’re so busy at work that you can only generate half-assed posts for a Message Board?

Besides, every time **Ilsa** kills a kitten, God masturbates.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/27 "2004-12-07T17:21:20Z")

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“Fuckbake”. I like it. \<writes down “f…u…c…” etc.\>

Liking _Showgirls_ … hmmmm… isn’t there therapy for that?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/28 "2004-12-07T17:22:01Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> WAAAAAAAAAAA! Go look for a cite yourself fuckbake, I fail to see what’s vague about my OP. Its all there, in various threads. Rather than being lazy, perhaps i’m too busy at work to trawl through fuck knows how many threads. Try taking my post as my cite, cunto, instead of being a lazy fucker yourself.

Bitch, don’t start threads if you don’t have time to make them, you know, coherent. It’s not our job to sift through the board trying to make sense out of your ramblings. It’s much easier to just assume you’re a dumb knob.

And don’t try to make up creative insults. You suck at it. “Fuckbake” is just embarassing.

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/29 "2004-12-07T17:25:40Z")

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Mark me down as another person that thought Ilsa was a girl. I’ll never read his/her posts the same way again. It’s almost like he got a sex change operation or something. Wow.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/30 "2004-12-07T17:27:24Z")

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Tell that to Garth Ennis, ‘Giraffe’, thats where I got it from in his Preacher books.

Sorry I can’t stick around, I actually have a life to go out to tonight, rather than watching pissants try to bait me on OPs or working on my Cathode ray tan from sitting at a computer 24/7. Keep yourselves nice til tomorrow.

MUUUUUUUUUUUMMM!! Giraffe doesn’t like my insults!

I’ll stick to the tried and tested fucktard or asshat next time mmm?

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/31 "2004-12-07T17:33:35Z")

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Yes!!! It’s the classic “I have a _llife_ instead of sitting at a computer all day like you nerds” comeback! Haven’t seen that one for a while…

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/32 "2004-12-07T17:35:30Z")

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Damn, you’re just a whiny little bitch today, ain’t ya?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/33 "2004-12-07T17:36:06Z")

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_:: shakes head ::_

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/34 "2004-12-07T17:39:03Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> I’ll stick to the tried and tested fucktard or asshat next time mmm?

Goat felcher still works too. But that’s not why this has turned into a self pitting. Make sure that you do your research and provide cites and footnotes.

And puleeeze use your best ammo when pitting. You would have garnered so much more support from the other members had you gone the _Showgirls_ route instead of the _Dead Kitten Flame_.

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/35 "2004-12-07T17:39:29Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Tell that to Garth Ennis, ‘Giraffe’, thats where I got it from in his Preacher books.

So you can’t even come up with original insults. Pathetic.

> [@](#):
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> Sorry I can’t stick around, I actually have a life to go out to tonight, rather than watching pissants try to bait me on OPs or working on my Cathode ray tan from sitting at a computer 24/7. Keep yourselves nice til tomorrow.

Sitting at the pub by yourself, pathetically attempting to make conversation with the bartender and staring at cute girls until the leave your vicinity does not a life make.

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**Author:** ![ShockingAlberto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@ShockingAlberto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShockingAlberto)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/36 "2004-12-07T17:45:11Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Tell that to Garth Ennis, ‘Giraffe’, thats where I got it from in his Preacher books.
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> Sorry I can’t stick around, I actually have a life to go out to tonight, rather than watching pissants try to bait me on OPs or working on my Cathode ray tan from sitting at a computer 24/7. Keep yourselves nice til tomorrow.
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> MUUUUUUUUUUUMMM!! Giraffe doesn’t like my insults!
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> I’ll stick to the tried and tested fucktard or asshat next time mmm?

Wow. The “Sorry, I don’t have time for this, I have a life” defense. Does that work in real life, too? I mean, when your wife yells at you for being a douche, do you reply “Sorry, I don’t have time for this, I have a life to get to!” and simply exit out? Or does the sheer fact this is over the internet inflate your balls (and ego) to the point where you’re simply an actor playing a role here? At least, that’s what I get from your asstacular insistence of bravado.

The sad thing is, I was quite willing to agree with the pitting. I clicked on the thread thinking “Hmm, I’m not a big fan of **Illsa** , this should be interesting.” Instead, it was weak and all you had to do was search that one poster’s post history. The onus to provide cites is on the accuser, not the third parties. For example, if I pitted you for being an overly-pretentious dick, I would almost certainly use this thread when people asked me for evidence. So, here, I’m giving you an out. Find an hour of the day, hell, half an hour will do, and look up a few posts. I’m not asking for the entirety or a few thousand posts, just a few, that prove what you’re saying. Look at it this way - if **Ilsa** is really as bad as you say he is, it can’t take that long or be that hard to prove it, right?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/37 "2004-12-07T17:47:33Z")

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> [@ShockingAlberto](#):
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> …asstacular…

My new favorite word.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/38 "2004-12-07T18:04:29Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> My new favorite word.

Tell it to Garth Ennis, ‘Q.E.D.’!

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**Author:** ![ShockingAlberto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@ShockingAlberto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShockingAlberto)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/39 "2004-12-07T18:05:24Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Tell it to Garth Ennis, ‘Q.E.D.’!

Is it a bad thing that I really have no clue who Garth Ennis _is_?

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-ilsa_lund-you-fucking-liar/278546/40 "2004-12-07T18:11:34Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> Sorry I can’t stick around, I actually have a life to go out to tonight, rather than watching pissants try to bait me on OPs or working on my Cathode ray tan from sitting at a computer 24/7. Keep yourselves nice til tomorrow.

Translation: I started a spectacularly lame pitting 'cause I misunderstood a simple joke, and am now getting my ass handed to me on a plate, so I’m going to go hide out for a while and make myself feel better by pretending I’m somehow superior to my rump-roasters.

Jesus Christ, buddy.

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