Ahmad Chalabi: Best Hope for Iraq or Shady Expat Puppet?

Which is just one of many problems with the operation: a lot of bad candidates for the leadership. I don’t know who would be better for this job, but at the risk of sounding unhelpful, they’d better find someone. Regardless of whether or not Molly Ivins hates him, it answers the question: he’s got a major criminal conviction on his record and doesn’t seem like the trustworthy sort. As the material SimonX posts indicates, the author of the article doesn’t change the fact that he was convicted in a huge case of fraud.

The comment about political advantage was meant to come across as an understatement. Pardon me.

Actually, a lot of what the US supports at least has credibility in the US.
And this lack of credibility isn’t alone.

All the expat Iraqis I know loathe Chalabi. They all say he is a crook and a criminal. Speak to them, and you will not for the life of you be able to understand why he is considered a viable option for leadership by the “West” (if indeed he is).

Some trivia: apparently “chalabi” means “doggy” in Arabic. So they tell me.

Based on my experiences with Molly Ivin’s work, if she hates Chalabi, I consider that a major point in his favor. That being said, it’s entirely possible (even plausible) that he’s as crooked as he’s made out to be.

However, it’s unlikely that we’re going to find some Iraqi George Washington lying around - someone who’s a strong leader, is well loved, and has great popular support. We’ll probably have to settle for some less-than-ideal candidate. But some sins are going to be less offensive than others. Let’s assume that Chalabi can be an effective leader, but he’s also crooked as all hell. Even if he embezzles millions, if he can pull the country together in the meantime, the embezzlement aspect of it may be as minor an issue as similar crimes are in the US. Politician steals money, word gets out, he loses the next election, and (if we’re lucky) charges are pressed. In the meantime, the people can rally behind a different candidate, and when the time comes, that candidate can take the reins in a (hopefully) peaceful manner.

From what I understand of the Iraqis - and of Arabs in general - they pretty much expect corruption in their officials. Not to excuse it, but in the short term, they’ll likely be relieved that they aren’t beign systematically tortured and slaughtered, and deal with it, with an eye towards improvement in the future.

At any rate, regardless of his faults, he’s the only one I’ve seen who’s even a plausible choice for leader of Iraq. The second someone shows me someone better, I’ll throw my support behind him, but for the time being, Chalabi seems the way to go.
Jeff

Someone who graduated from MIT and earned a PhD in mathematics from the University of Chicago must be very, very smart.

Yes, in some places.

I seriously don’t think Chalabi is in the running to be appointed leader, but he is part of the INC and they will be a major part of the process.

This is the transcript of the press conference from last night: http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/345 and a brief bio: http://www.benadorassociates.com/makiya.php
Some useful info in there. Kanan Makiya is another INC member and is based locally here, I don’t know why but I have a proprietary interest in him being a major player in all this. So I’m cheering him along.

Sort of like being a Rhodes Scholar.

If huge-scale embezzlement is a minor issue in the US, that’s not a good thing (and that wouldn’t make it tolerable in Iraq). Also, if we set Iraq up with a leader or official who swindles the people out of millions, that won’t be taken well. It’ll be even worse if it’s someone who they already know is a crook. The question might run “how can America hand our money to a man they know will steal it?”

And again, while you’re free to dislike Molly Ivins, his conviction is real (Jordan convicted him, not her, she’s just reporting a fact - and it’s not like she’s the only one who reported it, I just happend to quote her). And his shady record is also real. Doesn’t make much sense to say he must be a good leader because she thinks he’d be a bad one.
Somebody (I’ll see if I can figure out who) in Iraq commented about Chalabi “they say Saddam has 300 suits. This guy has 400.”

Personally, I have strong doubts about the U.S. being able to find a strong claimant to be leader of Iraq. This comes from the following problem: the Ba’ath Party had ruled Iraq since the late 1960’s. EVERYONE who has experience running Iraq would be either 1) a Ba’athist (under no circumstances someone to give the power to). or 2) would be in at least in their late 60’s. Moreover, the people who are most popular and not connected with the Ba’ath Party are Kurds, who would be unacceptable for the majority of the Iraqi population.

If anyone were to get the Presidency, however, Makiya might be the best pick, with Chalabi as an ambassador (but, under no circumstances, handling finances).

Does anyone else have suggestions for good picks for ruler of Iraq?

Getting a math PhD from the U. of Chicago is much more difficult than being a Rhodes Scholar. Very few people have that level of ability.

If either of you guys had the kind of cojones Molly Ivins has got, to be a bare knuckle straight talking liberal in Texas, you could hunt grizzly bears with a baseball bat. But she does and you…well, you’re not half the woman she is.

But what the hell, let’s do it! Lets install ol’ Chubs, give him one of those Commandante uniforms and aviator glasses, hell,we must have a couple hundred sets of those in the warehouse.

Then pull all of our troops the hell out of there.

I give him about ten minutes.

And, of course, the actual point that you ignored (or, more likely, missed) is that raw intelligence is hardly the sine qua non of good executive governance–especially when tied to a personality that is not particularly motivated by ethics.

Somehow, the notion that a brilliant math major should be a shoo-in for the presidency strikes me as one of the more ludicrous suggestions I’ve encountered. (Especially if all the higher math is used to spread other people’s money around one’s own family’s holdings.)

Here’s a brief bio of Adnan Pachachi (Bajaji) from middle east reference.org.ukIraq’s major opposition groups

Here’s the opening paragraph from an article by Pachachi about post-war Iraq.

Apparently there’s not as much available in English about Pachachi as there is about Chalabi.

The mideast reference.org.uk site linked to above has a short who’s who of Iraqi opposition groups if anyone is interested.

What in the hell…? :smiley:

Nobody insulted her.

Unless, of course, I misunderstood…

True, but brains in this case could definitely be a double-edged sword.

What tomndebb said. Also, one of my cousins is finishing a Ph.D. in math at the U. of C. His intelligence is, to be kind, rather one-dimensional. The guy is sweet, but has no social skills whatsoever. He couldn’t figure out that it might be polite to bathe less than a week before showing up for Rosh Hashanah at my mom’s house, especially if one plans on biking from Hyde Park to Evanston (about 20 miles). And that goes double if it’s 80 degrees outside.

I don’t agree often with Molly Ivins. This Houston lawyer I know cites her often in his writings, otherwise I’m not sure I’d recognize the name here (in the antithesis of Texas) where that stuff is standard fare. There’s a very good chance all things considered that what she doesn’t like, I will. Chalabi, granted, might be a bad example…

Never agreeing with someone is not an insult.

Having no balls and not half the woman Molly is…well I’m just not insulted either. So we’re even.

Well, an idiot with a lack of vision running a country isn’t so great either. Brains are a necessity; it’s that this person with brains (Chalabi) is also untrustworthy, at least to some.