# AI image generation is getting crazy good

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ai\
**Created:** [April 19, 2025, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ai-image-generation-is-getting-crazy-good/1017203 "2025-04-19T03:22:52Z")\
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That was _not_ Judy Jetson.

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Has the downside of this amazing AI image generation mentioned yet? Plagiarism!  
Bado’s blog reports:

> **[AI Re-Imagines original cartoons](https://bado-badosblog.blogspot.com/2025/05/ai-re-imagines-original-cartoons.html#more)**
>
> From The Daily Cartoonist . It seems a fairly new YouTube uploader is taking cartoonists’ original cartoons, “re-imagining” (read: swiping) ...

Funny how it still has this caracteristic orange-sepia hue.

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[![](https://i.gyazo.com/afe4383e755adccb30d6c3cf518ff7d6.png) ](https://i.gyazo.com/afe4383e755adccb30d6c3cf518ff7d6.png)

> **Prompt**
>
> Create image Movie poster for the upcoming muppets movie “Dr. Teeth and the Women” a parody of the Richard Gere film.

It can’t draw Dr Teeth anywhere close to accurately without a reference image, and when I provided it with one, it refused to do this particular image no matter how I framed the prompt. There’s an enhanced censor that kicks in when it’s working with a reference image and I couldn’t tell if it was rejecting it based on copyright or adult theme reasons.  
ChatGPT doesn’t do Janice all that well and I had to ask it who the the one on the right is. It was supposed to be Floyd Pepper. Gee, ChatGPT, you can’t come up with more than 3 iconic female muppets to fill out the poster? I wonder why not… (cue Bechdel testing of all the Muppet movies and shows)

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Skeeter, maybe? Though I’m not sure she ever existed in actual Muppet form…

And I suppose, with some of the more monstrous Muppets, we wouldn’t be able to tell if they were.

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This made me wonder about the Letter People. ChatGPT knows the Letter People

> **Summary**
>
> Absolutely! The **Letter People** are a set of educational characters originally developed in the 1970s to help young children learn phonics, letters, and early reading skills in a fun and engaging way. They were especially popular in preschools and early elementary classrooms and were often used with accompanying songs, puppets, and visual materials.
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### 📚 **Concept Overview**
> 
> Each **Letter Person** represents a letter of the alphabet and is characterized by a distinct personality, theme, and sound (phoneme). The original series differentiated between **Mr.** and **Miss** characters:
> 
> - **Mr. Letters** usually represented consonants.
> - **Miss Letters** usually represented vowels.
> 
> Each character emphasized the sound of their letter and had an alliterative name or feature to help kids remember (e.g., “Mr. B with the Beautiful Buttons”).
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### ✨ **Examples of Letter People**
> 
> | Letter | Character Name | Key Feature / Theme |
> | --- | --- | --- |
> | A | Miss A with the _Achoo!_ | Allergies, sneezing sound /ă/ |
> | B | Mr. B with the _Beautiful Buttons_ | Wore lots of buttons |
> | C | Mr. C with the _Cotton Candy_ | Loved cotton candy /k/ |
> | D | Mr. D with the _Delicious Doughnuts_ | Obsessed with doughnuts |
> | E | Miss E with the _Exercise Energy_ | Energetic /ĕ/ |
> | F | Mr. F with the _Funny Feet_ | Wore silly shoes /f/ |
> | M | Mr. M with the _Munching Mouth_ | Loved to eat /m/ |
> | S | Mr. S with the _Super Socks_ | Wore colorful socks /s/ |
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### 📼 **Media & Style**
> 
> - The Letter People were originally created as **inflatable characters** and later had **puppet-based TV shows** and videos.
> - The **TV series** aired in the late 1970s and 1980s on public broadcasting.
> - They had catchy **theme songs** , one for each letter/character, using simple melodies to reinforce phonics.
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### 🧠 **Legacy and Cultural Impact**
> 
> - Many adults today fondly remember the Letter People from childhood, often describing them as charmingly quirky or slightly surreal.
> - They were later rebranded in the 1990s with updated gender-neutral designs and animation, but the original designs remain beloved.
> 
> Would you like a visual recreation of the classic Letter People or maybe a modern reinterpretation?

But it can’t draw them unassisted.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/So6QiC9.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/So6QiC9.jpeg)

Definitely gonna have to work on that with reference images.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> with some of the more monstrous Muppets, we wouldn’t be able to tell if they were.

Yeah, but for a parody poster, you really want immediately recognizable unambiguously female characters from the franchise, of which there aren’t that many. Try asking random people to name 4 female Muppets. They might come up with one, and recognize the two others ChatGPT came up with when shown pictures.  
The only other regular named female Muppet I could think of was: Zoe, from Sesame Street. And definitely wrong to put on that poster!

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Playing on earlier experiments, I asked for a hybrid between a dingus and a plumbus. ChatGTP and Copilot refused. Sora failed 3 out of 4 images. The thing on the left was what got made. I then asked ChatGTP for a hybrid between a fungus and a plumbus, got the thing on the right on the first try.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/9wxOlGt.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/9wxOlGt.jpeg)

I liked both of them and decided both needed to be reused.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/de967hF.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/de967hF.jpeg)

For mentioning in prompts (provided with reference images) I named the animal-like one a plumboid and the plant-like one a funjil. Sora doesn’t always want to render the dangly bit on the top bit on the plumboid, and I consider it an important feature. (Though I’m willing to allow that there is some variation in the species, possibly a sexual dimorphism).

[![](https://i.imgur.com/eF145qb.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/eF145qb.jpeg)

[![](https://i.imgur.com/it33tuV.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/it33tuV.jpeg)

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> [@Ponderoid](#):
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> Gee, ChatGPT, you can’t come up with more than 3 iconic female muppets to fill out the poster? I wonder why not…

It knows about more. (I don’t know how accurate this reply is.)

> **Summary**
>
> There are several female Muppets who have become beloved characters over the years, each with unique personalities, voices, and roles across different Muppet productions (_The Muppet Show_, _Sesame Street_, _Fraggle Rock_, etc.). Here’s a breakdown by franchise:
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### 🎭 **Main Muppet Show / Muppet Movies (Jim Henson Company)**
> 
> #### **🐷 Miss Piggy**
> 
> - The diva of the Muppets.
> - Glamorous, confident, temperamental, and karate-chopping.
> - In love (often aggressively) with Kermit the Frog.
> 
> #### **🐔 Camilla the Chicken**
> 
> - Gonzo’s main chicken companion.
> - Doesn’t speak, but clucks expressively.
> - Often appears in musical numbers and background scenes.
> 
> #### **🧹 Janice**
> 
> - Lead guitarist for Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem.
> - Chill, hippie-style voice (“Fer sure, rully!”).
> - Known for her laid-back attitude and iconic pink lips.
> 
> #### **Wanda**
> 
> - Appeared in the duo Wayne & Wanda (a parody of lounge singers).
> - Sang romantic songs with Wayne, usually ending in comic disaster.
> 
> #### **Annie Sue Pig**
> 
> - A young pig Muppet with a sweet personality.
> - Often portrayed as Miss Piggy’s rival or protégée.
> - Had a few featured musical numbers.
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### 📺 **Sesame Street**
> 
> #### **Abby Cadabby**
> 
> - A fairy-in-training introduced in the 2000s.
> - Magical, bubbly, optimistic; uses a wand and rhymes.
> - Represents curiosity and learning with a whimsical flair.
> 
> #### **Zoe**
> 
> - An orange, energetic monster with a love for dancing and ballet.
> - Often appears with Elmo and other main characters.
> 
> #### **Rosita**
> 
> - A turquoise, Spanish-speaking monster from Mexico.
> - Plays guitar and often brings bilingual (English/Spanish) learning.
> 
> #### **Prairie Dawn**
> 
> - A polite and organized girl Muppet who loves putting on pageants.
> - Frequently appeared in classic _Sesame Street_ skits.
> 
> #### **Julia**
> 
> - Introduced to promote autism awareness.
> - Communicates in unique ways and helps model inclusion.
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### 🌍 **Fraggle Rock**
> 
> #### **Red Fraggle**
> 
> - Adventurous, loud, energetic; loves sports.
> - One of the main Fraggles, often challenges Gobo.
> 
> #### **Mokey Fraggle**
> 
> - Artistic, spiritual, soft-spoken.
> - A poet and dreamer, often more introspective.
> 
> * * *
> 
> ### 👩‍🎤 **Others (Lesser-known / One-offs)**
> 
> - **Yolanda Rat** – Background Muppet in the newer Muppet productions.
> - **Beverly Plume** – A chicken chef who hosts cooking shows.
> - **Spamela Hamderson** – A parody of Pamela Anderson, often used for comic effect.

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It omitted Queen Peuta and Vazh, but that’s completely justified.

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[![](https://i.gyazo.com/050c55f5775e90ca92a496d73cfc8b9f.png) ](https://i.gyazo.com/050c55f5775e90ca92a496d73cfc8b9f.png)

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From another thread:

> [@The Mexican Navy rams the Brooklyn Bridge {Tall Ship that lost power}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mexican-navy-rams-the-brooklyn-bridge-tall-ship-that-lost-power/1018494/45):
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> What if the quote was “flying monkeys attacked the crew and disabled the ship”. “Eye witness caught the video of it on their phone but flying monkeys stole the phone”.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/JIGT8PW.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/JIGT8PW.jpeg)

The prompt was simply “The Cuauhtemoc (with sailors manning the yards) being attacked by flying monkeys.”

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That bunny looks like a cloud!

[![](https://i.imgur.com/56lzmYw.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/56lzmYw.jpeg)

(Another image inspired by a post in a different thread.)

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Inspired by someone on Reddit who made a photo of JFK if he’d lived to be an old man.

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/9gTCYxK.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/9gTCYxK)

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/4O5jrmN.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/4O5jrmN)

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So, tonight’s “ChatGPT tricks” discoveries. A couple of times before I’ve seen prompts on Sora that start with “randomize (stuff)” but I figured it was probably vestigial non-functioning “code” like that first non-functional randomizer early in the thread. But tonight I decided to try it in a Copilot session. Here’s the original complete prompt and the image I generated with it:

> **Summary**
>
> Randomize all of the following: - subject - composition - style - light - vibe It can not be a painting. It is cinematic. It can’t have bokeh. Make it a random-wimmelbilder of something. (It can’t be a market, nor a playground, nor a garage, nor laundry, nor a bedroom, nor a workshop, nor a panic) 45°-angle-dutch-tilt. Captured with a high-end-IMAX-camera. Highly-detailed. Extreme-close-up.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/VMBVzFH.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/VMBVzFH.jpeg)

I streamlined the prompt a bit, removing the settings that the original creator didn’t like for some reason, made it a 4-way split:

> **Summary**
>
> Create image split the image into 4 sections, run through these instructions 4 times to fill in the 4 sections with different results:
> 
> Randomize all of the following: - subject - composition - style - light - vibe It can not be a painting. It is cinematic. Make it a random-wimmelbilder of something. 45°-angle-dutch-tilt. Captured with a high-end-IMAX-camera. Highly-detailed. Extreme-close-up.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/SE3lpMn.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/SE3lpMn.jpeg)

Streamlined it a bit more, got only human(oid) results:

> **Summary**
>
> Create image split the image into 4 sections, run through these instructions 4 times to fill in the 4 sections with different results:
> 
> Randomize all of the following: - subject - composition - style - light - vibe It can not be a painting. It is cinematic. Captured with a high-end-IMAX-camera. Highly-detailed. Extreme-close-up.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/0qUzOBU.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/0qUzOBU.jpeg)

I saw a possibility and this time I added something: the description of the characters I created for the bus bench in the rain images (from earlier in the thread) and in the “randomize” list I added activity and location. It worked exactly as I hoped:

> **Summary**
>
> Create image split the image into 4 sections, run through these instructions 4 times to fill in the 4 sections with different results:
> 
> A pretty mid-teens girl. She has shoulder-length brown hair. She wears a worn tan M-65 field jacket (open to expose a white cropped tank top underneath), fashionably-frayed jeans and bulky white sneakers. Close by her side is a serene capybara. Randomize all of the following: - activity - location - composition - style - light - vibe It can not be a painting. It is cinematic. Captured with a high-end-IMAX-camera. Highly-detailed.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/whjnSjN.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/whjnSjN.jpeg)

(Ironically, the third image randomly made her with her foot up in the position that I had tried and failed to get on purpose on the bus bench. I think the AI is mocking me.)

So the tricks of this lesson are

1.) That ability to randomize stuff

And

2.) The useful word “wimmelbilder”, which creates cluttered images.

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Okay, new prompt modification. This is a 4 variation set from Sora, not a 4-way split.

> **Summary**
>
> A pretty mid-teens girl. She has shoulder-length brown hair. She wears a worn tan M-65 field jacket (open to expose a white cropped tank top underneath), fashionably-frayed jeans and bulky white sneakers in a retro-futuristic world. Close by her side is a serene capybara. Randomize all of the following: - activity - location - composition - style - light - vibe It can not be a painting. It is cinematic. Captured with a high-end-IMAX-camera. Highly-detailed.

Two of the four photos have her smoking. Apparently that is more common in the retro-future.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/Vl8EViq.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Vl8EViq.jpeg)

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> **[YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/)**
>
> Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

watch?v=sjyfpOa51a4

Thought this appropriate here. Gets mostly past uncanny valley.

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Your link was broken. Here it is:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sjyfpOa51a4/maxresdefault.jpg "20 Wild West Legends Brought Back to Life using AI Vol.1 | Billy the Kid, Wyatt Earp, etc.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjyfpOa51a4)

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I broke it as would not allow it to embed. How did you overcome that? ⁉

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To avoid hijacking this and other threads, there are instructions in [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-avoid-the-youtube-posting-bug/1007499).

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Glad **you** posted the vid!!!.. 😱  
What did you think of the Ai effort …in general and with regard to uncanny valley.

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