# "Ain't no female fix my man a plate.  Mmmm, mmmmm..."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 25, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629 "2019-07-25T19:42:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/21 "2019-07-26T01:48:09Z")

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It isn’t hard to explain code switching. It’s common enough but not everyone knows that there is name or why folks do it. Im not sure what the personal attacks add.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/22 "2019-07-26T08:35:15Z")

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I’ve never met _anyone_ who doesn’t code switch. Even the frigging Queen of England apparently does it.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/23 "2019-07-26T09:25:51Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’ve never met _anyone_ who doesn’t code switch. Even the frigging Queen of England apparently does it.

OK, that I gotta know more about. Also, is there audio ? Tell me there’s audio of Queenie saying “What the fuck, dude ?” to Philip. Lie to me if you have to.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/24 "2019-07-26T10:10:03Z")

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> [@MikeG](#):
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> As a general rule, playing off fucking evil racism as a sense of humor simply marks one as a disingenuous shit.

The OP was simply making an observation.

So observations are now racist? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/25 "2019-07-26T11:14:48Z")

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> [@lingyi](#):
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> Hawaiian pidgin English is unofficial second language here in Hawaii and the majority of locals break into it in informal situations. It’s not uncommon to speak pidgin between co-workers and formal English to management.

rajah dat.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/26 "2019-07-26T11:25:01Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> I think the term you’re looking for is “code switching”, which, yes, is pretty common. Probably everyone does it to some extent.

Sometimes they forget to do it, or involuntarily code-switch to an inappropriate mode.

On a recent flight, the cabin attendant was serving drinks when he accidentally spilled a glass of orange juice right in my lap. I kept my cool, but he instantly yelled “oh SHIT”, a phrase that’s not generally an accepted part of language in the hospitality industry. I wasn’t angry - I mean hey, shit happens, and ultimately he did comp me and my wife with some FF mileage. If anything, his spontaneous outburst added a comical element to the story.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/27 "2019-07-26T11:29:27Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> The OP was simply making an observation.
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> So observations are now racist? :dubious:

No, “observations” are not automatically racist. Couching those observations in racist terms is, however. And even if innocuously mean, “ghetto talk” is a racist term.

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**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/28 "2019-07-26T11:53:39Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> OK, that I gotta know more about. Also, is there audio ? Tell me there’s audio of Queenie saying “What the fuck, dude ?” to Philip. Lie to me if you have to.

Not as extreme as that, but in [this video,](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dzLFn5rRGKY)check out her answer to the question at about 11:00.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/29 "2019-07-26T13:54:21Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> OK, that I gotta know more about.

It’s mostly based off how often people around Balmoral seem to bump into her and assume she’s just an ordinary old lady. And various TV documentaries.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/30 "2019-07-26T13:55:00Z")

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As a store cashier, I see and hear this every day. Two customers on line will be talking to each other in a form of English that I cannot understand, and then one of them will speak to me in a different tone of voice and perfect English.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/31 "2019-07-26T14:09:08Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> The OP was simply making an observation.
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> So observations are now racist? :dubious:

The observation, no, the use of the phrase “Ghetto English”, yes.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/32 "2019-07-26T14:42:58Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> The OP was simply making an observation.

Please :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/33 "2019-07-26T15:03:13Z")

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Children and adolescents code-switch all the time. At home in the UK it may well be RP, and at school whatever accent and slang dominates locally, and much the same happens in France and Germany. And then again, there’s the question of bilingual societies, e.g., in Wales.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/34 "2019-07-26T15:05:34Z")

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> [@WotNot](#):
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> but in [this video,](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dzLFn5rRGKY)check out her answer to the question at about 11:00.

Ah yes, the portrait where “the teeth follow you round the room” by the artist we do not mention…

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/35 "2019-07-26T16:02:21Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> The OP was simply making an observation.
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> So observations are now racist? :dubious:

Please tell me you don’t really expect us to believe this is a sincere question :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/36 "2019-07-26T16:08:16Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Children and adolescents code-switch all the time. At home in the UK it may well be RP, and at school whatever accent and slang dominates locally, and much the same happens in France and Germany. And then again, there’s the question of bilingual societies, e.g., in Wales.

My child literally has two accents - British (everywhere but home) and American (at home). Occasionally we get to hear her British one - it’s funny but unsettling.

> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Please tell me you don’t really expect us to believe this is a sincere question :dubious:

He was simply typing words.

So words are now insincere?

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**Author:** ![Helmut\_Doork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e8c25b/32.png) [@Helmut\_Doork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helmut_Doork)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/37 "2019-07-26T16:10:03Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So words are now insincere?

insincere…

[ˌinsənˈsir]

ADJECTIVE

not expressing genuine feelings.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/38 "2019-07-26T16:15:19Z")

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This thing is a mess so I’m going to close it until I’m not on the road and it can get sorted out.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aint-no-female-fix-my-man-a-plate-mmmm-mmmmm/837629/39 "2019-07-29T01:50:48Z")

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Moderating:

I apologize for not getting back to this sooner. Blame a combination of life getting in the way and having to discuss the banning of the OP to the other Mods. I’ll give back 25% of my salary in penance.

As I announced in ATMB the OP of this thread has been banned for trolling therefore the thread will not be reopened. If someone wishes to open a thread on code switching go right ahead.

At this point I would like to mention that this thread was only reported by one person for what the OP posted prior to me closing it. And it wasn’t someone who commented in the thread. We did received multiple reports about some of the comments. If you think someone is trolling or otherwise breaking the rules let us know. Most likely we will not be able to act unless you report it. Breaking the rules yourself is not a good solution.

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> So we just let overt racists trolls operate here now? I’ll take the warning or whatever and take a break from this place.

If you insist.

This is an official warning for personal insults. Use the report function and save the insults for the Pit.

> [@MikeG](#):
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> As a general rule, playing off fucking evil racism as a sense of humor simply marks one as a disingenuous shit.
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> I’ll wait for anyone reading to go look up the scary big words.

Ditto.

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