# Air marshal perv caught in the act, arrested

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 18, 2013, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562 "2013-10-18T09:27:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/1 "2013-10-18T09:27:42Z")

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> A federal air marshal has been arrested and accused of taking cell phone photographs underneath women’s skirts as they boarded a plane at Nashville International Airport.

]([http://bigstory.ap.org/article/air-marshal-accused-taking-photos-under-skirts](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/air-marshal-accused-taking-photos-under-skirts))

I’m gonna guess that this story gets some focus because of this detail:

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> Nashville police say Adam Bartsch was on duty on Southwest Airline Flight 3132 on Thursday when a witness noticed he was taking the photos **and grabbed his cell phone**.

That’s right, a federal LEO had his fucking cel phone snatched out of his hand while he was on duty. And then failed to control the situation so that the witness could alert a flight attendant, resulting in his arrest once the plane landed.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m very happy that he was caught out and I admire the way the as-yet-unnamed cel snatcher/witness’s huge stainless steel balls clank when he walks, but I’m a little dumbfounded that the guy charged with the security of the flight was not just skeevy but also apparently completely ineffectual.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/2 "2013-10-18T11:29:39Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Don’t get me wrong, I’m very happy that he was caught out and I admire the way the as-yet-unnamed cel snatcher/witness’s huge stainless steel balls clank when he walks, but I’m a little dumbfounded that the guy charged with the security of the flight was not just skeevy but also apparently completely ineffectual.

Considering that “skeevy and completely ineffectual” pretty much sums up the TSA as a whole, the most surprising part is that he got arrested for it.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/3 "2013-10-18T12:12:09Z")

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I’ve never understood the sneaky upskirt photo thing. I totally get the lucky glimpse on a windy day or during the crossing of the legs, but not the deliberate invasion by camera.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/4 "2013-10-18T13:06:32Z")

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He was looking for bombs.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/5 "2013-10-18T13:15:02Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> He was looking for bombs.

They have sniffers for that.

I assume the passenger that grabbed his phone didn’t know he was a LEO. As far as managing the situation goes, I suppose he could badge the passenger and order him to give it back, but the guy’s probably already raised the hue and cry.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/6 "2013-10-18T13:18:35Z")

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A bit more on the witness. **Tom Tildrum** assumed right.  
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Witness Rey Collazo told News 2 exclusively he first saw Bartsch, who he did not know was an on-duty air marshal, taking photographs while boarding the plane.

“I just reached over with my left hand and grabbed it, struggled with him a little bit and I got the better part of the phone and twisted and hit him with my right hand between the neck and the shoulder. Shoved him back and I took the phone,” Collazo said.  
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[Link](http://www.wkrn.com/story/23721777/air-marshal-arrested-after-taking-pictures-up-passengers-skirts)

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/7 "2013-10-18T13:23:25Z")

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I just assumed anyone involved in America’s security theater apparatus, ie TSA is incompetent, now I will also assume they are creeps.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/8 "2013-10-18T13:34:53Z")

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How exactly does one take up-skirt photos? Was he lying on the floor examining passegers’ feet for shoe-bombs? Or only taking photos of passengers with very short skirts?

And since those photos are the core subject of this thread, are we allowed to ask to see the pics? \<_D&R_\>

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/9 "2013-10-18T13:41:47Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> How exactly does one take up-skirt photos? Was he lying on the floor examining passegers’ feet for shoe-bombs? Or only taking photos of passengers with very short skirts?
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> And since those photos are the core subject of this thread, are we allowed to ask to see the pics? \<_D&R_\>

Front-facing cameras on cellphones probably make the mechanics of this a little simpler. I mean, that is honestly a guess.

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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/10 "2013-10-18T13:47:55Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> They have sniffers for that.

Then his skills were totally mismatched to the opportunitiy available.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/11 "2013-10-18T13:56:44Z")

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Snatch-Snapper’s Phone Snatched by Snitch

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/12 "2013-10-18T14:06:42Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> They have sniffers for that.

That was next on his list of Things To Do.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/13 "2013-10-18T14:27:30Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That was next on his list of Things To Do.

Damn beat me too it.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/14 "2013-10-18T14:39:52Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> How exactly does one take up-skirt photos? Was he lying on the floor examining passegers’ feet for shoe-bombs? Or only taking photos of passengers with very short skirts?

I think the article said it happened during boarding. My guess is that he was sitting in an aisle seat with the hand holding his phone extended low into the aisle, and that he was snapping pictures of women in skirts (and any Scotsmen, presumably) as they walked by to board.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/15 "2013-10-18T15:00:27Z")

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Damn, and people say _ **I’m** _ weird.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/16 "2013-10-18T15:03:07Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> Snatch-Snapper’s Phone Snatched by Snitch

Snitch Snatches Snatch-Snapper’s Phone?

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/17 "2013-10-18T15:21:33Z")

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What an idiot. Has he never heard of the mirrors on the shoes technique?

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/18 "2013-10-18T15:27:49Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> What an idiot. Has he never heard of the mirrors on the shoes technique?

He didn’t want a fleeting glimpse, he wanted a permanent souvenir.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/19 "2013-10-18T15:44:11Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> He didn’t want a fleeting glimpse, he wanted a permanent souvenir.

Then take a photo of the mirror. Gosh, do I have to think of everything? It’s like the rest of you aren’t even trying to come up with a better technique!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/air-marshal-perv-caught-in-the-act-arrested/671562/20 "2013-10-18T17:20:23Z")

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He should have just had a good explanation ready. [Like this guy](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/college-professor-shot-student-upskirt-videos-864930).

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