# Aircraft contrails and cloud cover

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aircraft-contrails-and-cloud-cover/264668>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 16, 2004, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aircraft-contrails-and-cloud-cover/264668 "2004-09-16T10:36:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aircraft-contrails-and-cloud-cover/264668/1 "2004-09-16T10:36:21Z")

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As I sat on the train coming into London this morning, I was stuck by the number of aircraft trails lingering in the sky. It was a beautiful clear morning, but there were probably about a dozen trails visible, some of which had spread out to a considerable width.

I was wondering to what extent, if any, aircraft trails are increasing cloud cover. I tried a few Google searches and there seems to be a lot of info out there, but much of it seems to be infected by the “chemtrail” tinfoil crowd.

Anyone got the Bacofoil-free skinny?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aircraft-contrails-and-cloud-cover/264668/2 "2004-09-16T10:50:09Z")

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North American got to do some real science on this topic in 2001.

After 9/11 air travel was non-existant for several days, and severely curtailed for a slightly longer period, meaning vritually no contrails\* over the US for several days. Scienticists took advantage of the situation to make some observations and compared the data to more normal times with abundant air traffic. There was a whole bunch of really complicated technical stuff involved which I’m not even going to try to explain.

Verdict: yes, contrails _do_ affect cloud cover, serving at the source of a certain amount of high-altitude clouds.

Since it has been a few years since that time I don’t have an exact recollection of where I read about all that, but it was from sources I consider realiable. If I can remember where the information was I’ll post it here.

- Air Force One, some military flights, and some emergency medical flights did occur, however, the medical flights and a substantial portion of the military flights were at relatively low altitudes and did not form contrails.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aircraft-contrails-and-cloud-cover/264668/3 "2004-09-16T10:56:04Z")

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Here we go - if I can get the link to work properly - is a document from NASA, an organization usually considered pretty level-headed and scientific:

[Spreading of Isolated Contrails During the 2001Air Traffic Shutdown](http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:S8gNFeJudCMJ:www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/sass/pub/conference/Minnis.abs.ARAMS.02.pdf+meteorology+contrails+cloud+formation+-chemtrail,+-chemtrails&hl=en)

When you search on Google, got to “Advanced Search” and under the part where it says “ **without** the words” put “chemtrail, chemtrails” to eliminate some of the tinfoil hat sites.

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aircraft-contrails-and-cloud-cover/264668/4 "2004-09-16T10:56:55Z")

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[BrieflyEmpty Skies Offer Climate Clues](http://cartome.org/9-11climatology.htm) is an article that I read after 9/11 that described the study done of contrails as the skies emptied and it has some interesting information about contrails and cloud cover.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aircraft-contrails-and-cloud-cover/264668/5 "2004-09-16T10:56:59Z")

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[Cecil’s (somewhat tangential) article on the subject](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000616.html)
