# Airline incidents are once again making Islamic jihadists orgasm..

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 1, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887 "2017-06-01T22:03:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/21 "2017-06-04T01:54:27Z")

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Every once in a while, I read a thread and think, where did this idiot come from? And why am I only discovering him (her?) now?

I do not have answers for these questions.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/22 "2017-06-04T01:54:34Z")

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I am not a pilot, but I think the women would become frenzied, would rip off the man’s clothes and would then eat him.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/23 "2017-06-04T02:02:15Z")

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[aside] You know, every time I hear a certain Kiss tune, I think " Femme Jean / Sixteen ". [end aside]

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/24 "2017-06-04T02:10:21Z")

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> [@femmejean](#):
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> I’m interested in that kind of stuff…there’s something situationally ‘arousing’ about a an all female passenger and crew flight restraining a young petit man who is at there whim as to whether they want him to be beaten or punished for trying to hijack the airplane.
> 
> I remember reading about ronda rousey beating up a man, I wonder if you had female professional athletes on a similar level as her on an aircraft and they encountered a scrawny hijacker would they attack him.

This is exactly why people were not answering that part of your posts. We didn’t feel like engaging fantastic hypotheticals about F-on-M violence.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/25 "2017-06-04T02:18:11Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Point of order: _passengers_ have more difficulty getting things aboard. Very little, if anything, has been done to prevent ground crew from sneaking things through security.

I mean, I was just going off the OP’s premise.

In actuality, the TSA “test results” for passenger screenings are fairly alarming & don’t necessarily hold up the premise–let alone ground crews.

I’ve found it’s easier to just correct the bigger picture, rather than focus on everything that’s incorrect. While you’re most likely correct about ground crews and the TSA has shown that they’re unlikely to find something on a passenger that had even a modicum of effort behind concealing it, it’s far easier to just point out that the conclusions don’t support the premise, rather than pointing out that the premise itself is flawed.

In other words, pretend I started with an “Even if we assume that’s true…”

> [@femmejean](#):
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> Come on mate…just because some users here take offense to my eccentric threads calling me names like a sexually sadistic fuck or a fucked up cunt, it doesn’t mean any of this is true.

I mean, people saying it doesn’t make it true, but (at least in this case–I’ve never seen you before) their points are well supported by the evidence.

Exhibit A:

> [@femmejean](#):
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> I’m interested in that kind of stuff…there’s something situationally ‘arousing’ about a an all female passenger and crew flight restraining a young petit man who is at there whim as to whether they want him to be beaten or punished for trying to hijack the airplane.

All of the above being said:

What the fuck happened to this thread between the time of my first reply and now?! Why are you now talking about a plane filled entirely with women and TV show/movie premises?! What the fuck does any of that shit have to do with anything that was part of the original topic?!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/26 "2017-06-04T06:27:38Z")

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Lost in all the OP’s fantasies is a kernel of actual annoyance I can get behind.

The Malaysian airplane was kept on the tarmac for between 90 minurtes and two hours before the SWAT team arrived. Arrived all macho in their face masks and full gear and “the biggest guns ever”, ready to take down any and everyone who even looked funny.

Probably terrorized everyone who was not a terrorist on the plane. Probably also took another 2-4 hours to process everyone, just to make sure they weren’t secret stealth terrorists. Can’t be too careful, you know.

You can be nearly certain that no one on the plane has guns, and if there was a bomb, keeping everyone inside the plane is much more dangerous than letting them out. Probbaly didn’t let anyone use the bathroom, though there isn’t any mention either way in the article. So coming in full combat is a tad much.

I eagerly await someone chastizing me, and that they would put up with anything “in the name of safety”.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/27 "2017-06-04T08:56:36Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I eagerly await someone chastizing me, and that they would put up with anything “in the name of safety”.

Or I can chastise you for pulling stuff out of your ass, adding the word “probably” to it, and complaining about it like it actually happened and wasn’t just a detail that you made up.

But, sure, let’s go with your reason. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/28 "2017-06-04T11:11:15Z")

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> [@femmejean](#):
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> Okay not literally if you’re over the age of 5 and understand what a metaphor is.
> 
> Just a few hours ago, I saw another article about an overreaction from passengers, crew and law enforcement involving disruptive passengers on board airliners.
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> [‘Hero’ passenger helps tackle ‘would-be hijacker’](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4561282/Malaysia-Airlines-chaos-Hero-passenger-reveals-ordeal.html)
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> okay to be honest, that’s not the biggest overeaction I’ve seen regarding air travel.
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> [Chinese Passengers Beat Hijackers - June 2012](http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/two-plane-hijackers-beaten-to-death-by-passengers-in-china/news-story/d9ceed1cba265fcd79f8bc22a8386245)
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> With all the reinforced cockpit doors and extra security, there’s no real threat present attacking these ‘buff’ mach guys don’t realize that they’re feeding into the narrative that Al-Qaeda tried to establish in the early noughties and is succeeding in. Just restrain the guy politely with handcuffs, sedate him and put him to sleep then leave me to enjoy my flight. No need to deploy stupid ‘SWAT’ teams.
> 
> Al-Qaeda and their Islamic affiliates can be compared to the process of sex. They got horny during the Middle Eastern conflicts in the 80s along with the promise of a charismatic leader like OBL, got the build-up in the 90s up until late 2001 and orgasmed on 9:03AM when the attacks on the twin tower were confirmed as terrorism. The attack which was truly the most successful attack on the common sense and intelligence of Western populations. Now they’re probably experiencing subsiding orgasms whenever stories like this pop up of airport security going overboard with such stupid measures like banning laptops or macho men trying to tackle and/or kill hijackers who pose no actual threat nearly two decades after.
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> I understand it’s a weird analogy but the point is if you guys wanna stop terrorism, stop overeacting on airplanes. Sure it’s a bit scary when a guy stands up and tries to hijack the plane but honestly, I’ve been in a similar situation and didn’t get nervous. Is stupid, it’s silly. The chances of dying in an airplane crash are incredibly tiny especially so after 9/11 (and NO…not because passengers won’t comply but the measure have made it difficult to smuggle weapons on board)
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> DON’T FEED INTO OSAMA’S NARRATIVE. You’re an idiot if you do. That’s why people crash planes into buildings 16 years ago. Not to commit mass murder but more so to provoke an underlying paranoia, fear and anger of terrorism.

> [@femmejean](#):
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> I assume most people who would do this are men.
> 
> I’ve been asking a question and so far not really received a straightforward response; If a male reporter or relative of a female on all female flight with professional athletes tried to hijack the aircraft, would the women stop him?
> 
> Not talking about physical capability but the actual response?

> [@femmejean](#):
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> But you misunderstood my point,
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> I’m was wondering whether the fight or flight situation a flight filled with all female passengers would be taken control of easily without resistance by a single male hijacker without a real weapon.
> 
> Would the women gang up on him like these men or just sit there like statues?

> [@femmejean](#):
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> Not that I believe they don’t or wouldn’t, I just personally have never seen that in a film.
> 
> I’m interested in that kind of stuff…there’s something situationally ‘arousing’ about a an all female passenger and crew flight restraining a young petit man who is at there whim as to whether they want him to be beaten or punished for trying to hijack the airplane.
> 
> I remember reading about ronda rousey beating up a man, I wonder if you had female professional athletes on a similar level as her on an aircraft and they encountered a scrawny hijacker would they attack him.

> [@femmejean](#):
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> Come on mate…just because some users here take offense to my eccentric threads calling me names like a sexually sadistic fuck or a fucked up cunt, it doesn’t mean any of this is true.
> 
> I don’t really understand why people find it hard to believe that I take pleasure in imagining alternative scenarios. I’m thinking of contributing to small project films and hopefully graduate to TV shows in the future. Not for the popularity but just seeing films with unusual scenarios on television.

So we start at a point where the OP is concerned that our overreactions to perceived terrorist threats are giving the terrorists metaphorical orgasms…  
And we get to the point where the OP is getting his orgasms, from what I’m not quite sure.

I feel dirty now having participated in this thread at all. Hey FJ, go away…

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**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/29 "2017-06-05T14:23:08Z")

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> [@femmejean](#):
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> I assume most people who would do this are men.
> 
> I’ve been asking a question and so far not really received a straightforward response; If a male reporter or relative of a female on all female flight with professional athletes tried to hijack the aircraft, would the women stop him?
> 
> Not talking about physical capability but the actual response?

[Serena Williams](http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/06/serena-williams-phone-thief-daily-hit-newday.cnn) took down a guy who stole her phone. I imagine she would do more to protect her life.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/30 "2017-06-05T14:33:37Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Or I can chastise you for pulling stuff out of your ass, adding the word “probably” to it, and complaining about it like it actually happened and wasn’t just a detail that you made up.
> 
> But, sure, let’s go with your reason. :rolleyes:

[“Passengers who were onboard the flight were placed in a holding area inside Tullamarine Airport from about 2:00am and were only allowed to leave just after 9:00am.”](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-01/malaysia-airlines-flight-turns-back-after-bomb-threat/8577910)

So, remove “probably” from one of my points, and substitute 7 hours for the “2-4” I wrote.

Though I will admit to there being no support so far for my comment about the SWAT team scaring the passengers.

But, considering that crews routinely keep passengers from using the bathroom simply when the plane is delayed, do you doubt the “probability” that the same happened here?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/31 "2017-06-05T14:44:56Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> I am not a pilot, but I think the women would become frenzied, would rip off the man’s clothes and would then eat him.

Ow! Mae nads!

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airline-incidents-are-once-again-making-islamic-jihadists-orgasm/787887/32 "2017-06-06T06:29:05Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> [“Passengers who were onboard the flight were placed in a holding area inside Tullamarine Airport from about 2:00am and were only allowed to leave just after 9:00am.”](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-01/malaysia-airlines-flight-turns-back-after-bomb-threat/8577910)
> 
> So, remove “probably” from one of my points, and substitute 7 hours for the “2-4” I wrote.

Isn’t it nice when you actually do the research instead of just making up details? Don’t you feel more accomplished?

> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> But, considering that crews routinely keep passengers from using the bathroom simply when the plane is delayed, do you doubt the “probability” that the same happened here?

Did I somehow miss there being a chance of the plane taking off while the person was in the bathroom?

That’s the reason for the rule. They want to be ready to go at a moment’s notice. That 10 minute interruption could only end up taking 5 or that storm could just as soon change direction. That combined with not knowing how long someone may take in the bathroom makes it easier to just say “go in the air”.

Any delay where they know it’s going to be long term, they let the passengers back into the terminal, where they can use the bathroom to their heart’s content. They couldn’t do that here for obvious reasons, but unless you can show me where the security protocols forbid going to the bathroom in a permanently grounded plane, rather than a temporarily grounded one, I’m going to go with “making shit up”.

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