# Airliner shot down over Ukraine - what happens next? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 17, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397 "2014-07-17T20:14:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/41 "2014-07-18T23:49:44Z")
We could’ve started a global thermonuclear war. What would be worse than that? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/42 "2014-07-19T01:02:52Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > We could’ve started a global thermonuclear war. What would be worse than that? The radiation-zombies. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/43 "2014-07-19T01:04:31Z")
Nice username/post combo! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/44 "2014-07-19T01:15:05Z")
I know. Whatever the topic, **BG** always brings it around to the Zombie Apocalypse, of which he is in favor. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/45 "2014-07-19T01:52:23Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > Doesn’t seem like anyone hear has posted about this yet, but the [audio intercepts](http://nyti.ms/1rl9Z2s) seem to pretty clearly show that it was the separatists with close links to Russian military that mistakenly shot down the plane. I saw reports that a Russian Navy officer had taken responsibility for shooting down the plane, but they don’t seem to be repeated anywhere now. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/46 "2014-07-19T02:14:00Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I saw reports that a Russian Navy officer had taken responsibility for shooting down the plane, but they don’t seem to be repeated anywhere now. 😕 In Russia, sword falls on you. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Cashless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Johnny\_Cashless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Cashless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/47 "2014-07-19T11:51:25Z")
**Ukraine accuses pro-Russia rebels of taking bodies from crash site** Strangest headline so far this morning. Alternative: ‘Ukraine accuses pro-Russia rebels of leaving bodies of women and children to rot in fields in heatwave’ > **[MH17: Ukraine accuses pro-Russia rebels of taking bodies from crash site](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/19/mh17-ukraine-accuses-pro-russia-rebels-removing-bodies)** > > Kiev says pro-Russia rebels have removed bodies from crash site with help from Moscow, and are trying to destroy evidence ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/48 "2014-07-19T12:04:31Z")
If Putin doesn’t stop the futzing around by his paramilitary people, he’ll find himself with no friends at all. wait…does he have any, now? ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/49 "2014-07-19T12:07:58Z")
> [@Johnny\_Cashless](#): > > **Ukraine accuses pro-Russia rebels of taking bodies from crash site** > Strangest headline so far this morning. > > Alternative: ‘Ukraine accuses pro-Russia rebels of leaving bodies of women and children to rot in fields in heatwave’ > > [MH17: Ukraine accuses pro-Russia rebels of taking bodies from crash site | Russia | The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/19/mh17-ukraine-accuses-pro-russia-rebels-removing-bodies) Well, it’d be real nice if they left the area alone and allowed the crash investigators in. It’s too bad the separatists aren’t real nice. ---
**Author:** ![kurtisokc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kurtisokc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurtisokc)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/50 "2014-07-19T12:50:34Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > If Putin doesn’t stop the futzing around by his paramilitary people, he’ll find himself with no friends at all. wait…does he have any, now? Of course he does. Some of them are on this message board. ---
**Author:** ![kurtisokc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kurtisokc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurtisokc)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/51 "2014-07-19T12:52:39Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > The radiation-zombies. This thread is far too young to be making zombie jokes. ---
**Author:** ![kurtisokc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kurtisokc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurtisokc)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/52 "2014-07-19T12:58:02Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Well, it’d be real nice if they left the area alone and allowed the crash investigators in. It’s too bad the separatists aren’t real nice. I agree. But this might not be deliberate destruction of evidence so much as a case of the people controlling the area not having any idea of what to do with a crash site. I’ve read accounts of locals picking up pieces of the plane as souvenirs. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Cashless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Johnny\_Cashless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Cashless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/53 "2014-07-19T13:06:40Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > It’s too bad the separatists aren’t real nice. Are they the new evildoers\*? \*copyright GWB ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/54 "2014-07-19T13:14:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_Cashless](#): > > Are they the new evildoers\*? > \*copyright GWB No, just garden variety jerks. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Cashless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Johnny\_Cashless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Cashless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/55 "2014-07-19T13:57:37Z")
can’t disagree with that. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/56 "2014-07-19T20:03:48Z")
Some of the people cracking jokes on this thread make me sad for the human race. There are little babies lying on the ground, their little bodies broken. It’s not a fucking joking matter. They need to find the people responsible and hang them. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/57 "2014-07-19T20:06:27Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Some of the people cracking jokes on this thread make me sad for the human race. > > There are little babies lying on the ground, their little bodies broken. It’s not a fucking joking matter. > > They need to find the people responsible and hang them. I think it’s healthier to cope through dark humor than to call for vengeance and more death. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/58 "2014-07-19T20:11:03Z")
They need to be held accountable for this atrocity. And yes, the death penalty for the people involved in the murder of 80+ children and hundreds of civilians? Not too harsh in my book. Those people need to not exist anymore. The entire planet would be better off without them. Also, there’s nothing humorous about this situation. Go look up the images of the crash. I’m sure you’ll find one of a baby lying on the ground. Try and laugh then asshole. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/59 "2014-07-19T20:16:31Z")
“Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-what-happens-next/693397/60 "2014-07-19T20:20:22Z")
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