# Al Gore accused of sexual assault in Portland **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 25, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497 "2010-06-25T16:15:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/21 "2010-06-25T23:12:02Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > She said she has a pair of her pants with Al Gore’s cum all over them… Is that your carbon footprint or are you just happy to see me? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/22 "2010-06-25T23:52:34Z")
Sexual energy is a limited resource that must not be wasted. Hell, I’m already over 60 already. Hop on and lets ride. Al Gore ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/23 "2010-06-26T01:00:44Z")
The latest reports say she asked the Enquirer for $1M; they turned her down and printed the story anyway. I just wish the local media would quit calling it the Gore Sex Scandal. It’s not a sex scandal unless there is proof, morons. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/24 "2010-06-26T01:37:08Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The latest reports say she asked the Enquirer for $1M; they turned her down and printed the story anyway. I just wish the local media would quit calling it the Gore Sex Scandal. It’s not a sex scandal unless there is proof, morons. Well, we don’t need _proof_, but some _evidence_ would be nice. There is none. Now, if it had been Bill in that room, I think we’d need a little less evidence, eh?😛 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/25 "2010-06-26T02:51:48Z")
The thing that sounds phony is the massage therapist complete surprise. The very nature of her business invites a sexual request. Some massage therapists offer extra services for tips. Others don’t. The ones that don’t are very skilled at keeping it non-sexual. Their body language and attitude practically screams hands off. If a guy said or did anything wrong they’d put him in his place quick. I’ve had a few massages when my back was bothering me. There was no way I would have said anything wrong. They were all business and it was obvious they weren’t there for anything else. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/26 "2010-06-26T16:03:17Z")
You don’t need proof or evidence for a scandal, just a lot of sound and fury. Of course when that woman sued George Bush for rape it didn’t get all over the news like this. And he was president. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/27 "2010-06-26T16:17:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The thing that sounds phony is the massage therapist complete surprise. The very nature of her business invites a sexual request. But she could be “shocked” if Al Gore asked for such a thing. I think that her story is total bullshit, but there is a difference between a drunken traveling salesman and a former VP. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/28 "2010-06-26T16:25:21Z")
> [@Wilbo523](#): > > I didn’t know that Al was also a masseuse. What do you mean ‘also?’ Teehee hh ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/29 "2010-06-26T16:31:28Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The thing that sounds phony is the massage therapist complete surprise. The very nature of her business invites a sexual request. > > Some massage therapists offer extra services for tips. Others don’t. The ones that don’t are very skilled at keeping it non-sexual. Their body language and attitude practically screams hands off. If a guy said or did anything wrong they’d put him in his place quick. > > I’ve had a few massages when my back was bothering me. There was no way I would have said anything wrong. They were all business and it was obvious they weren’t there for anything else. I can imagine that much of her surprise was that the offer was from a high profile, ex-VP of the US, who also may be remembered for his wife’s demand for a rating system on audio albums, both positions which many people associate with high moral standards. Best wishes, hh ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/30 "2010-06-26T16:55:38Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It seems odd that a high-profile person like Gore would show up at a toney hotel where everybody recognizes him, arranges for a massage through the hotel staff, then assaults the person who shows up. It doesn’t seem to pass the common sense test. > > However, I remember working on a Congressional Delegation that passed through Lisbon (the Black Caucus on its way to observe elections in South Africa) and was shocked that there were local hookers roaming the floor where they were staying and that an all-night party was still in progress when I arrived at 0300. Not only that, they had stolen the key to the “gifts” room and stolen a case of very expensive 20-year old port, then refused to pay for it. The hotel staff obviously knew about the hookers, but it was never reported to the media. The hookers or the congressmen? Congressmen being thieves is expected, but hookers actually work for a living. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/31 "2010-06-26T17:11:51Z")
In today’s paper, the massage therapist is quoted as calling Al Gore a “crazed sex poodle” in her 2009 police interview. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/32 "2010-06-26T17:22:32Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > The hookers or the congressmen? > > Congressmen being thieves is expected, but hookers actually work for a living. 😃 The Congressmen’s staff members, we assumed. The Embassy sent the travel office a bill for the port, but was rebuffed with extreme prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/33 "2010-06-26T18:41:51Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The Congressmen’s staff members, we assumed. The Embassy sent the travel office a bill for the port, but was rebuffed with extreme prejudice. Was Gus Savage on this trip? Cause he’d steal the port and stiff the hookers on their fee. Oddly apropos for the thread topic: [http://www.congressionalbadboys.com/Savage.htm](http://www.congressionalbadboys.com/Savage.htm) > [@](#): > > Savage got in trouble (not the first, nor the last time) because of what happened on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee concluded that he made improper “sexual advances” to a young female Peace Corps volunteer during a trip to Zaire in 1989. Savage sent a letter of apology: “While in Zaire earlier this year,” it said in part, “if you felt personally offended by any words or actions of mine, I apologize, because I never intended to offend and was not aware that you felt offended at the time.” > > So what went on? The Peace Corps volunteer, a 28-year-old female, was invited to have dinner at the U.S. ambassador’s residence, with Savage and others in attendance. She was to brief Savage, a few days later, on the work of the Peace Corps in Africa. After the dinner, she agreed to accompany Savage and several others on a tour of Kinshasha’s night life. Savage insisted that he and the woman ride alone in the chauffeured limousine. According to the woman, Savage, “aggressively and repeatedly fondled her in the back seat of the embassy car despite her strong spoken protests and physical resistance.” “As soon as the . . . cars pulled off from the ambassador’s residence, he grabbed me,” she said. “He tried to force me to have sex with him.” Finally, an information officer from the U.S. embassy escorted her from Savage’s car and took her home. The woman had to be medically evacuated back to the U.S. and underwent six weeks of intensive therapy given to victims of sexual assault. The U.S. ambassador later chewed out Savage for his improper conduct. > > The Peace Corps volunteer, who has not been identified, was called “a traitor to the black movement” by Savage. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/34 "2010-06-26T19:33:57Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Well, it all seemed fishy to me, but I thought I’d throw the red meat to the Dope and see what transpires. The local media won’t shut up about it, despite the local cops saying “there’s no story here”. Unless she can come up with a credible witness or actual DNA material, it’s a he-said-she-said situation. Not aimed at you, **Chefguy** , but when I saw this comment, worded as it was, what immediately jumped into my mind was, **“Herring: the other red meat.”** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/35 "2010-06-26T21:41:38Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Was Gus Savage on this trip? Cause he’d steal the port and stiff the hookers on their fee. This was in either 1993 or 1994. I thought it all reflected very poorly on the USA, but career Foreign Service Officers in the embassy just shrugged it off. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Captain\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/36 "2010-06-27T08:27:07Z")
Al Gore has a big cock. That was what kept Tipper in the relationship for so long. Now, the man is so utterly boring, the big cock doesn’t work anymore. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/37 "2010-06-28T04:54:52Z")
Bit of a question here. Let’s assume for a moment a few things… 1. Gore DID get a massage from the lady in question 2. She can positively and absolutely verify that the massage did take place (with something that is beyond question, such as a hotel receipt or similiar) 3. Gore did NOTHING wrong 4. After the massage she went home and recorded a date stamped and verifiable (in terms of when it was recorded) account of some sort of wrongdoing from Al. What prospect would Gore have of defending himself now? Three years later, who would have any sort of memory at all of a (seemingly) innocuous massage in a hotel - especially if legit massages were a common thing for him. (as they are for me) ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/38 "2010-06-28T13:23:46Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > The hookers or the congressmen? > > Congressmen being thieves is expected, but hookers actually work for a living. 😃 And neither pay taxes. /try the veal. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/39 "2010-06-28T14:07:27Z")
Assuming it was more than a therapeutic massage, and she was not that kind of masseuse (which is a bit of a stretch because I’d imagine these distinctions would be clarified beforehand by Gore’s handlers (pardon the pun)…unless she’s willing to cooperate with the prosecutors, then she loses credibility. Producing DNA stained underwear doesn’t bolster her case, IMO. In fact, it hurts it, because what client expecting a happy ending leaves his underwear ON? If anything, that lends me to believe that he didn’t expect it, but wasn’t resistent to it, either. Big whooping deal. I’m instantly skeptical of anyone who: 1) Claims to be a victim and then arms herself with a lawyer; and/or b) Demands money w/o also wanting justice through the criminal court. I had a similar reaction to the parents who accused Michael Jackson of molesting their children and sought a few million bucks from him, yet wouldn’t testify in a criminal trial. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/40 "2010-06-28T14:36:14Z")
Screaming liberal that I am, hey, If you are a public official, with a known history of being attacked in the media by thousands of rabid muckrakers at every even made up bullshit pretend excuse, and you were in a distant city, with a beastly back ache, so bad you could just not tough it out, and you had bags of money laying around on account of being rich as Croesus, and all, wouldn’t you hire a licensed Physical Therapist to provide you with professional services? Not because you must, but simply because the pain in the back is nothing compared to the pain in the ass waiting for you. Tris [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497.md?page=3)