# Al Gore accused of sexual assault in Portland

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 25, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497 "2010-06-25T16:15:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/81 "2010-07-21T19:00:19Z")

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It doesn’t show up in the IMDB quotes section, but I’m pretty sure Lily Tomlin called Steve Martin’s girlfriend a “sex poodle” in 1984’s _All of Me_. That’s the first thing I thought of when I heard the quote. (That is one of my favorite movies from the 80’s).

ETA: Apparently the clip is here, although I can’t confirm from work: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2UFpZ\_KSak](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2UFpZ_KSak)

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/82 "2010-07-22T20:28:54Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The way I understand it, they can be accurate but their primary use is to convince criminals that the cops know what they did, which makes them more willing to fess up. From a police standpoint, that would make them useful even if the readings were usually wrong.

The cops know they are usually not admissible in court, but they often use it to rule out leads to help them direct a case. When she flunked, it was important, because it struck at her credibility. The lack of evidence ,with the lie detector detecting her lying, tells them not to waste their resources on the case.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/83 "2010-07-22T20:36:17Z")

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But they don’t really judge whether you’re actually lying, just whether or not you show signs of nervousness. If you’re just a really nervous person, even if you’re not lying, you could fail one. And if when you do lie, it’s not that different from your baseline indicators, it won’t register anything.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/84 "2010-07-22T20:57:03Z")

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Granted I don’t hang on every news channel all day but the initial story made it to even the local news, when does this follow-up hit the news?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/85 "2010-07-22T22:42:07Z")

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The Enquirer is now reporting that two other “masseuses” have come forward with the same complaint. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/86 "2010-07-22T22:49:16Z")

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I hope he didn’t do it but I’m starting to have my doubts now…I guess you never know.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/87 "2010-07-24T12:54:12Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The Enquirer is now reporting that two other “masseuses” have come forward with the same complaint. :rolleyes:

That he was a crazed sex poodle?

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/88 "2010-07-30T22:54:16Z")

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he’s off the hook

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/89 "2010-08-01T00:04:01Z")

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As johnpost has said, [Gore is indeed off the hook.](http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/30/oregon.al.gore.case/) The charges have been dropped, due to “lack of creditable evidence.”

Oddly enough, the right-wingers don’t seem to be rushing to apologize for their assumption that Gore was guilty. Now it seems that the Portland police are involved in some sort of conspiracy to protect Gore. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-in-portland/544497/90 "2010-08-01T06:24:42Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> But they don’t really judge whether you’re actually lying, just whether or not you show signs of nervousness. If you’re just a really nervous person, even if you’re not lying, you could fail one. And if when you do lie, it’s not that different from your baseline indicators, it won’t register anything.

From what I understand, the best way to beat the test is to act just as nervous during the baseline part of the test. You want the responses to truths and lies to be the same, and pretending to be nervous is easier than pretending to be calm.

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