# Al Gore the Scam Artist

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 30, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879 "2010-04-30T16:13:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![randy054](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@randy054](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randy054)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/1 "2010-04-30T16:13:06Z")

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I watched An Inconvenient Truth a few years back with a friend and thought Al was really sincere in regards to Global Warming. But, then I did some research in regards to his own life style and clearly he is the biggest fucking hypocrite that ever existed.

I drive a cheap 40 mpg vehicle in order to conserve fuel, live in a efficient apartment, with the attempt to at least reduce my expenses and waste.  
But this joker does not even try.

Regardless of the debate on Global Warming, it appears he does not believe in what he says. He claimed the ocean levels will rise but yet buys a coastal property with an astronomical footprint.

Perhaps he needs all the bathrooms for the amount of bullshit he spews out.

He needs to be tried for fraudulent claims he does not believe in and if convicted, sentence for lifed. I’ll refrain on speaking what I really think of him. and what he deserves.

> **[Al Gore, Tipper Gore snap up Montecito-area villa](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2010-apr-28-la-hm-hotprop-gore-20100428-story.html)**
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> Al Gore, Tipper Gore snap up Montecito-area villa

Al Gore, Tipper Gore snap up Montecito-area villa  
The Italian-style home has an ocean view, fountains, six fireplaces, five bedrooms and nine bathrooms.  
April 28, 2010|Lauren Beale, Los Angeles Times  
Former Vice President Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, have added a Montecito-area property to their real estate holdings, reports the Montecito Journal.

The couple spent $8,875,000 on an ocean-view villa on 1.5 acres with a swimming pool, spa and fountains, a real estate source familiar with the deal confirms. The Italian-style house has six fireplaces, five bedrooms and nine bathrooms.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/2 "2010-04-30T16:17:00Z")

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But he bought carbon offsets. They’re the new indulgences…

Seriously, though, your article doesn’t talk about whether or not the property is at sea level. It just says “ocean view”, which in CA often means it’s still pretty much above sea level.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/3 "2010-04-30T16:19:19Z")

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Good lord, _another_ thread about this shit?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/4 "2010-04-30T16:21:47Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Good lord, _another_ thread about this shit?

You might want to check out the link, as a mod. The OP quoted the entire article, although it was quite short.

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**Author:** ![randy054](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@randy054](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randy054)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/5 "2010-04-30T16:27:07Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> But he bought carbon offsets. They’re the new indulgences…
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> Seriously, though, your article doesn’t talk about whether or not the property is at sea level. It just says “ocean view”, which in CA often means it’s still pretty much above sea level.

It does not even matter if it is at ocean level or not in regards to his carbon footprint. Perhaps it does to his claim on ocean levels rising.

Point being, if he does not mind destroying the earth then why should I care. He is the one peddling his bullshit and should be setting an example.  
Fuck it.

From now on, I am going to do everything in my power to destroy the earth and maybe, I can reach his level.  
All plastics go in the ditches, garbage bags, ocean etc. I’ll dump all my motor oil down the sinks, gutters, into the ground etc. Of course, I’m only one person and my attempts woul be futile compared to a major corporation. I hope a few nuclear stations blow up and radiate the earth.  
Fuck it

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/6 "2010-04-30T16:27:51Z")

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Good grief. Look, Al Gore isn’t preaching a monastic lifestyle. He’s a wealthy man, he sees nothing wrong with living as such, and I doubt he’d say it’s wrong for others to do likewise.

His position - whether you agree or disagree with it - isn’t that we need to stop driving, flying, or what have you, but that we need to develop and expand the use of technologies to do these things in more environmentally friendly ways. Switching to more use of solar, wind, hydro, and maybe nuclear (don’t know where he stands on that last) would make a real difference in our carbon footprint - one millionaire doesn’t really make a dent, no matter how lavishly he lives.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/7 "2010-04-30T16:30:55Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> one millionaire doesn’t really make a dent, no matter how lavishly he lives.

But isn’t that the thought process that leads to this situation in the first place? Tragedy of the Commons?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/8 "2010-04-30T16:31:34Z")

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This is some monumental stupidity right here.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/9 "2010-04-30T16:31:54Z")

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> [@randy054](#):
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> Point being, if he does not mind destroying the earth then why should I care.

Really? Previously you cared about environmentalism because you wanted to please the former Vice President, and now he bought a big house and so you want to destroy the planet out of spite?

Frankly, I think the problem is you’re way too into Al Gore.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/10 "2010-04-30T16:32:13Z")

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I don’t see any contradiction between the capitalist stance that those with more money should be able to purchase more stuff and the environmentalist stance that the people and the government should take steps to ensure that our products pollute as little as possible for what they are.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/11 "2010-04-30T16:43:06Z")

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I guess there are two issues here:

1. Is climate change a real problem, and what do we do about it?

2. Is Al Gore, due to his lifestyle choices, a good spokesperson for said problem.

The two don’t really have anything to do with each other.

If you want to rag on Gore for being a hypocrite, fine. Bring the facts, and let us judge them. Linking to an article with just a few sentences about one of his real estate deals is pretty weak.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/12 "2010-04-30T16:43:38Z")

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What the fuck is wrong with buying carbon offsets?

Have partisan politics so overwhelmed basic economic learning that such a juicy bit of capitalist steak is being thrown to the dogs because it’s got Democrat cooties?

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**Author:** ![randy054](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@randy054](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randy054)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/13 "2010-04-30T16:43:45Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> Good grief. Look, Al Gore isn’t preaching a monastic lifestyle. He’s a wealthy man, he sees nothing wrong with living as such, and I doubt he’d say it’s wrong for others to do likewise.
> 
> His position - whether you agree or disagree with it - isn’t that we need to stop driving, flying, or what have you, but that we need to develop and expand the use of technologies to do these things in more environmentally friendly ways. Switching to more use of solar, wind, hydro, and maybe nuclear (don’t know where he stands on that last) would make a real difference in our carbon footprint - one millionaire doesn’t really make a dent, no matter how lavishly he lives.

Considering that 20% own the majority of the wealth in this country 84%, and by extension, resouces, they also pollute the most then. So they want to take more from remaining 80% so they can continue to live lifestyles like that of Al Gore?

Sorry, Al may only be one man, but so am I.  
I’ll choose to live how I please then and do everything in my power to point out the hypocracies to friends, neighbors, internet etc that we should do everything to fight against these cocksuckers

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/14 "2010-04-30T16:43:54Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> …Tragedy of the Commons?

True. This is pretty much the source of all of our world’s major problems. Each person acting in his/her own best interest in the short term leads to grand unresolvable “genie out of the bottle” issues.

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**Author:** ![randy054](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@randy054](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randy054)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/15 "2010-04-30T16:53:44Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I guess there are two issues here:
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> 1. Is climate change a real problem, and what do we do about it?
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> 2. Is Al Gore, due to his lifestyle choices, a good spokesperson for said problem.
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> The two don’t really have anything to do with each other.
> 
> If you want to rag on Gore for being a hypocrite, fine. Bring the facts, and let us judge them. Linking to an article with just a few sentences about one of his real estate deals is pretty weak.

1. If climate change is a real problem, I don’t think we’ll be able to do anything about it anyhow short of world depopulation. Either way, earth tends to take care of those pesky things like that. There would be a mass die off.

2. Well, would you want a 500 pound person advertising the miracles of eating salads to be thin while muncing down big macs 24/7?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/16 "2010-04-30T16:57:20Z")

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> [@randy054](#):
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> 1. If climate change is a real problem, I don’t think we’ll be able to do anything about it anyhow short of world depopulation. Either way, earth tends to take care of those pesky things like that. There would be a mass die off.

That position is rather at odds with the one you staked out in the OP.

> [@](#):
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> 1. Well, would you want a 500 pound person advertising the miracles of eating salads to be thin while muncing down big macs 24/7?

No, but I’d want to really know that the guy was 500 lbs. You may be correct in your assessment about Gore, but you haven’t brought enough facts to the table here to prove it.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/17 "2010-04-30T16:57:22Z")

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> [@randy054](#):
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> It does not even matter if it is at ocean level or not in regards to his carbon footprint. Perhaps it does to his claim on ocean levels rising.
> 
> Point being, if he does not mind destroying the earth then why should I care. He is the one peddling his bullshit and should be setting an example.  
> Fuck it.
> 
> From now on, I am going to do everything in my power to destroy the earth and maybe, I can reach his level.  
> All plastics go in the ditches, garbage bags, ocean etc. I’ll dump all my motor oil down the sinks, gutters, into the ground etc. Of course, I’m only one person and my attempts woul be futile compared to a major corporation. I hope a few nuclear stations blow up and radiate the earth.
> 
> Fuck it

Hey, don’t stop there, use plastic grocery bags and then toss them outside to be borne away by the wind, pull the catalytic converter off your car, replace all your light bulbs with the old-fashioned kind, leave your lights and Tv on 24/7, drill for oil in the gulf and then set it on fire! C’mon, commit to the lifestyle!

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/18 "2010-04-30T17:00:28Z")

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Doesn’t Santa Barbara get most of its power from the Diablo Canyon nuke plant?

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**Author:** ![randy054](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@randy054](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randy054)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/19 "2010-04-30T17:00:53Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Hey, don’t stop there, use plastic grocery bags and then toss them outside to be borne away by the wind, pull the catalytic converter off your car, replace all your light bulbs with the old-fashioned kind, leave your lights and Tv on 24/7, drill for oil in the gulf and then set it on fire! C’mon, commit to the lifestyle!

Lol, my anger got the best of me. Thanks for pitching in.

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-gore-the-scam-artist/537879/20 "2010-04-30T17:07:23Z")

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> [@randy054](#):
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> From now on, I am going to do everything in my power to destroy the earth and maybe, I can reach his level.

Yeah, that’ll show him.

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