# Al Masjid Al Aqsa **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 24, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196 "2010-10-24T17:11:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/101 "2010-11-03T21:05:47Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Wait, what? Every fucking time I get to a Hard Right Wing site that’s talking (blaberring usually)about Muhamad there’s the same old shit aboutMuhamad being a pedophile that raped his infant wife Aisha. And so all of Islam is one big whole religion of pedophiles (or for pedophiles, who knows?). Blood Libel for the Muslims. The board could do without that. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/102 "2010-11-03T21:33:41Z")
All right, but wasn’t he talking about the Prophet Mitchell? Not that I have any idea who that is, but I’m pretty sure it “Mitchell” isn’t a pseudonym of Mohammed. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/103 "2010-11-03T21:44:04Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > All right, but wasn’t he talking about the Prophet Mitchell? Not that I have any idea who that is, but I’m pretty sure it “Mitchell” isn’t a pseudonym of Mohammed. He was mixing Mohamed and Brian Mitchell ( [Kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_D._Mitchell) ), as characters of the same nature. I’m very much an atheist but I find it very biased to even insinuate this. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/104 "2010-11-04T00:40:11Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Every time I see PBUH/PBUT I’m left with the impression that the speaker is reciting out of rote memorization and ritual, rather than thoughtful analysis. All the PBUH and PBUT give _me_ the impression that the speaker has a wad of phlegm in this throat and is trying to expectorate. “The Divine Will says…uh, excuse me…PBUH! PBUT!!! Ah, much better.” ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/105 "2010-11-04T00:43:53Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Sorry, I dont like censorship but could we have an Admin’s"Elbow from the Sky" on Abysafian here. I just cant stand having to fast scroll to half a screen worth of complete bullshit every time I get on a thread where he posted. He does that all the fucking time. This is spam. He should be told to quit that or leave by proper authorities. I agree that it is neither persuasive nor very interesting. OTOH, he is not wandering around spamming multiple threads. He is pretty much a serial witness, keeping his odd diatribes to one thread at a time. You are, I hope, capable of simply ignoring any thread in which he is the OP, (although I grant that it appears that several posters are not psychologically prepared to do that). Still, I will keep your suggestion under advisement. [/Modding] ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/106 "2010-11-04T01:02:13Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Last I check you dont have to fight stupidity and ignorance by being stupid and ignorant yourself. While I appreciate your effort to save the tenor of this thread, insulting other posters, even obliquely, is not the way to do it. Back off. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/107 "2010-11-04T15:46:29Z")
Awesome thread! Gave my index finger a much needed work-out! ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/108 "2010-11-04T17:23:16Z")
Where’s **Kanicbird** when you need him? ---
**Author:** ![Abisafyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Abisafyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abisafyan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/109 "2010-11-04T17:29:18Z")
\*\*Each and every diversity in things reflects the unity: \*\* The recent scientific research has also proved this fact. The world renowned Muslim Scholar, Harun Yahya write in his article; ‘A Turning Point in History’ – (The Fall of Atheism) as under: “The Big Bang theory was formulated after a series of discoveries. In 1929, the American astronomer, Edwin Hubble, noticed that the galaxies of the universe were continually moving away from one another and that the universe was expanding. If the flow of time in an expanding universe were reversed, then it emerged that the whole universe must have come from a single point. Astronomers assessing the validity of Hubble’s discovery were faced with the fact that this single point was a “metaphysical” state of reality in which there was an infinite gravitational attraction with no mass. Matter and time came into being by the explosion of this mass-less point. In other words, the universe was created from nothing.” The seven colors come out from one color i.e. the color of light and vice versa and hence the seven colors in fact reflect the one color. In the same way, the boundless diversities in living beings as well as in nonliving beings confirm the unity in living beings as well as nonliving beings. There is no count of diversity in living beings but nevertheless there is unity in all the living beings. All living beings are equally vulnerable to oxygen and water. Likewise wherever there will be water it shall be comprised of H2O irrespective of its location, color and form!!! So on and so forth. And all this is the reflection of the Only One Creator!!! **Muslims are having a Genuine Divine Deed** Muslims are having a Genuine Divine Deed in their possession in support of the fact that all humankind does have, right today, a common ancestry, common history in terms of basics, common race, and common nativity, (native world) and had been having the common religion, common civilization, common culture and common language in the beginning. Other evidence of other things also corroborates this fact. And it is not far off that this fact shall be proved beyond doubt. In fact as after coming-out a river it flows downwards and forwards in different directions if the main flow is effective it protects its characteristics. While its many weak branches become polluted under the alien influence and loose many things at different stages and become unidentifiable but still if one take a sample and tries to touch its brass-tacks they will find that though polluted but the sample was of water. If the process of emerging of different languages could somehow be reversed there would appear a single Parent Language. Similarly all the creeds have got a common root that is Islam, which is the original version while others are the worn-out and distorted replicas. And hence the difference is; that Islam is the genuine and original version while the rest are the distorted copies. I would like to give a simple example of the common noun; ‘mother’. I have collected thus far the common nouns for name of mother in world popular different languages and I have found that one and the same is the root of this noun; Mother, for example: \*\*Language: \*\* **Noun for mother:** Afrikaans Moeder, Ma Albanian Nënë, Mëmë Arabic Umm Aragones Mai Asturian Ma Basque Ama Belarusan Matka Bergamasco Màder Bolognese Mèder Bosnian Majka Brazilian Portuguese Mãe Bresciano Madèr Breton Mamm Bulgarian Majka Byelorussian Macii Calabrese Matre, Mamma Catalan Mare Chechen Nana Croatian Mati, Majka Danish Mor Dutch Moeder, Moer Dzoratâi Mére English Mother, Mama, Mom Esperanto Patrino, Panjo Estonian Ema Faeroese Móðir Flemish Moeder French Mère, Maman Frisian Emo,Emä,Kantaäiti, Äiti Furlan Mari German Mutter Greek Ma Gujru Màna Griko Mána, Salentino, Hawaiian Makuahine Hindi - Ma, Maji Icelandic Móðir Ilongo Iloy, Nanay, Nay Indonesian Induk, Ibu, Biang, Nyokap Irish Máthair Italian Madre, Mamma Judeo Spanish Madre Kannada Amma Ladino Uma Latin Mater Leonese Mai Ligurian Maire Limburgian Moder, Mojer, Mam Lingala Mama Lithuanian Motina Lombardo Occidentale Madar Lunfardo Vieja Macedonian Majka Malagasy Reny Malay Emak Maltese Omm Mantuan Madar Maori Ewe, Haakui Mapunzugun Ñuke, Ñuque Mudnés Medra, mama Neapolitan Mamma Norwegian Madre Occitan Maire Old Greek Mytyr Pashto Mor Parmigiano Mädra Persian Madr, Maman Piemontese Mare Polish Matka, Mama Portuguese Mãe Punjabi Amman Quechua Mama Rapanui Matu’a Vahine Reggiano Mèdra Romagnolo Mèder Romanian Mama, Maica Romansh Mamma Russian Mat’ Sardinian (Limba Sarda Unificada) Mama Sardinian Campidanesu mamai Sardinian Logudoresu Madre, Mamma Serbian Majka Shona Amai Sicilian Matri Slovak Mama, Matka Slovenian Máti Spanish Madre, Mamá, Mami Swahili Mama, Mzazi, Mzaa Swedish Mamma, Mor, Morsa Swiss German Mueter Telegu Amma Triestino Mare Ukrainian Mati Urdu Ammee, man, amman Valencian Mare Venetian Mare Viestano Mamm’ Wallon Mére Welsh Mam Yiddish Muter Zeneize Moæ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/110 "2010-11-04T18:00:23Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > Where’s **Kanicbird** when you need him? Now _there’s_ an unanswerable question… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/111 "2010-11-04T18:05:25Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I agree that it is neither persuasive nor very interesting. > OTOH, he is not wandering around spamming multiple threads. He is pretty much a serial witness, keeping his odd diatribes to one thread at a time. > > You are, I hope, capable of simply ignoring any thread in which he is the OP, (although I grant that it appears that several posters are not psychologically prepared to do that). > > Still, I will keep your suggestion under advisement. > > [/Modding] Serious question: I’m aware that this is the forum for witnessing, but is there any rule, official or unofficial, or expectation that the person witnessing should make an effort to respond to (legitimate) questions? Not that it isn’t fun to take potshots at someone rambling incoherently with his fingers lodged in his ears, but it doesn’t really resemble a debate by any stretch of the word. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196/112 "2010-11-04T18:28:34Z")
**Abisafyan** , I have (very reluctantly) read through most of your boilerplate text. You are not addressing any point that is under discussion in this forum and you are no longer even witnessing in any senase that has any meaning. Readers of this board will not be persuaded by raw assertions–particularly assertions that include purported facts that they know to be erroneous and most particularly when there is no effort made to actually defend those disputed statements with citations that would support the claims. We all know that you are awed and amazed by the majesty that you perceive in your beliefs. We are all bored by your boilerplate text. If you want to assert that there is actually some sort of divine force behind Islam, simply make that simple statement and then link to a web site that includes the boilerplate. This thread is closed. [/Moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-masjid-al-aqsa/558196.md?page=5)