# Al Who?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 5, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877 "2011-05-05T21:03:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/1 "2011-05-05T21:03:04Z")

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How do you spell the evilest, vilest, puppykickingest organization known to contemporary mankind?

Also, how do you pronounce it?

Me:  
Spell - Al Qaida  
Pronounce - ahl kuydah

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/2 "2011-05-05T21:11:32Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> How do you spell the evilest, vilest, puppykickingest organization known to contemporary mankind?
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> Also, how do you pronounce it?
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> Me:  
> Spell - Al Qaida  
> Pronounce - ahl kuydah

You misspelled Republican.

I figure I’d go ahead and beat someone to the punch. 😃

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**Author:** ![YaraMateo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/58f4c7/32.png) [@YaraMateo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YaraMateo)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/3 "2011-05-05T21:22:09Z")

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I spell it Al Qaeda, because I’ve seen it that way in the media. How do they spell it? I suppose they use the arabic symbols.

I say it Al Ki-da.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/4 "2011-05-05T21:23:39Z")

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Al Qaeda

Al-Kay-Da

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/5 "2011-05-05T21:23:44Z")

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Al Qaida

Al Ka(short pause)-(I sound like “in”)-duh

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/6 "2011-05-05T22:09:15Z")

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I’ve only seen Al Qaeda. I have no problem saying All KYE-duh when I hear about it, but, when I see it, I always think al KAY-duh. I find it odd to anglicize the spelling to one that doesn’t follow English pronunciation rules. As far as I can tell, it’s not even Al KAHeh-duh, which would justify using an E instead of at least an I.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/7 "2011-05-06T09:24:20Z")

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[Al Kader](http://www.alkadershriners.org/).

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**Author:** ![FatBaldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@FatBaldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FatBaldGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/8 "2011-05-06T16:46:55Z")

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You left off Al Gore

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/9 "2011-05-07T04:14:22Z")

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> [@YaraMateo](#):
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> How do they spell it? I suppose they use the arabic symbols.

القاعدة‎  
[ALQA"DE](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Arabic_Technical_Transliteration_System)

The Q is pronounced very far in the back of the throat–you almost swallow it  
The " also originates in the back of the throat and resembles a vocalized strangle

Obviously, neither sound is present in most European-based languages so we don’t have easily recognized symbols for them. For that reason you get different spellings based either on how you heard a native say it or a non-Arab say it.

Same reason there are a hundred different ways to spell the Lybian heffe’s name. And it doesn’t help that the Q is pronounced as stated above or as a G (as in goat-herder) depending on the local dialect.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/10 "2011-05-07T04:51:56Z")

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S-h-a-r-p-t-o-n

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**Author:** ![YaraMateo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/58f4c7/32.png) [@YaraMateo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YaraMateo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/11 "2011-05-07T07:04:30Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> القاعدة‎  
> [ALQA"DE](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Arabic_Technical_Transliteration_System)
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> The Q is pronounced very far in the back of the throat–you almost swallow it  
> The " also originates in the back of the throat and resembles a vocalized strangle
> 
> Obviously, neither sound is present in most European-based languages so we don’t have easily recognized symbols for them. For that reason you get different spellings based either on how you heard a native say it or a non-Arab say it.
> 
> Same reason there are a hundred different ways to spell the Lybian heffe’s name. And it doesn’t help that the Q is pronounced as stated above or as a G (as in goat-herder) depending on the local dialect.

Thanks for posting this and explaining. I think Arabic is such a beautiful language.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-who/580877/12 "2011-05-09T02:11:22Z")

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> [@YaraMateo](#):
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> Thanks for posting this and explaining. I think Arabic is such a beautiful language.

Well, I won’t argue aesthetics with you, but mechanically it is quite fascinating.
