# Al Zaqawi gets his 72 virgins! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2006, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874 "2006-06-08T11:54:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/61 "2006-06-08T18:17:25Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > Only one of the above had the chance to. What kind of mindset do you believe our troops in Haditha possessed? That of Zaqawi or that of Mr. Berg? And, of course, the important thing to remember is that there is **absolutely no middleground** between the two points of view. You’re one or the other. No shades of gray here, no siree. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/62 "2006-06-08T18:23:31Z")
> [@Der Trihs](#): > > Does anyone else wonder why men as misogynistic as fundamentalist Muslims would _want_ 72 female anything ? If I treated women like they do, I’d be terrified to be outnumbered like that. But this is Paradise, so the virgins would be docile and yielding and submissive. :rolleyes: If we’re lucky, it’s _Virginians._ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Euthanasiast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Euthanasiast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euthanasiast)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/63 "2006-06-08T18:30:13Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > If you feel “joy” because you think this will stem terrorism, good for you. If you feel joy just because we killed a bad guy, I think you’re a sick fuck, and quite similar to Zaqawi on a pretty fundamental level. What would you think of someone who would feel joy if they’d have stuffed his ass full of Jolly Ranchers and hung him in the street, allowing the neighborhood kids to beat him like a fucking piñata? I’m asking for a friend 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/64 "2006-06-08T18:40:17Z")
[I can now say](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374782) what I’ve felt since November of 2002: some troll must’ve left its **Trunk** behind. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/65 "2006-06-08T18:40:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > But this is Paradise, so the virgins would be docile and yielding and submissive. :rolleyes: Or Allah has a sense of humor ? “Here’s your 72 virgins in paradise - the paradise for man-hating lesbian sadists, but it IS paradise. I just didn’t mention it wasn’t _yours_. Have fun, ladies.” ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/66 "2006-06-08T18:42:31Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [I can now say](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374782) what I’ve felt since November of 2002: some troll must’ve left its **Trunk** behind. What happened in November 2002? ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/67 "2006-06-08T18:44:24Z")
Personally, I think that this [quote=uglybeech] This is the first time I’ve said this about anyone: here’s hoping he suffered. is way more trollish than anything I’ve posted. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/68 "2006-06-08T18:45:26Z")
I can’t say I’m literally jumpin for joy here, but as others have said he needed to die (I’m a bit saddened that a woman and child died in the strike…reguardless of how necessary something is it should temper any ‘joy’ that though unintented innocents died to bring this about ☹ ). Sort of like a rabid dog needs to be put down. No joy there…just necessity. Its also not going to cure rabies or prevent OTHER dogs from getting the disease… I also was sickened by watching (briefly) the beheadings, or reading about things like the mosque attack. Sort of a bummer I’m an athiest…would be comforting to believe Ole Scratch was presenting poking AZ in the ass with a rusty trident… -XT p.s. I have my doubts it will make much of a difference in the over all situation in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/69 "2006-06-08T18:49:10Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > It’s not a stretch at all. > > On a fundamental level, someone who rejoices in this for vengence’s sake and Zaqawi both believe that death is a justifiable outcome for actions that you deem reprehensible. > > That’s about as fundamental as personal philosophy gets. And I think it makes you a sick fuck whether your justification is retribution for a stray US bomb in 1991, or a hijacked airliner in 2001. Yup, huge stretch, filled with massive generalizations and strange equivalences. I’m still quite convinced of the immeasurable difference between me and Zarqawi. You’ve no better clarified your personal philosophy here than before. It remains pure nonsense, and motivates me not one bit to stop being content that a head-cutting-off-piece-of-shit bit it yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/70 "2006-06-08T18:59:24Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > What happened in November 2002? That’s about the time I first noticed one of your posts. You were, and still are, being an ass. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/71 "2006-06-08T19:01:21Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > Yup, huge stretch, filled with massive generalizations and strange equivalences. I’m still quite convinced of the immeasurable difference between me and Zarqawi. > > You’ve no better clarified your personal philosophy here than before. It remains pure nonsense, and motivates me not one bit to stop being content that a head-cutting-off-piece-of-shit bit it yesterday. Neither massive generalization nor strange equivalancy. One of the most fundamental aspects of a personal philosophy is whether a person believes that killing someone else FOR REVENGE is justifiable. I made the distinction between _that_ and killing for the sake of other means in my first post here. And, whether you believe that’s a fundamental element of a person’s philosophy is really a separate question. On that level alone, a person rejoicing in this death is exhibiting the same attitude that Zarqawi seems to possess even if you believe there are differences in the justifiability in the root causes of their anger. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/72 "2006-06-08T19:04:23Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > That’s about the time I first noticed one of your posts. Neat trick. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/73 "2006-06-08T19:05:40Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > Neat trick. Sorry, I was looking at the wrong user. December of 2003 then. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/74 "2006-06-08T19:12:19Z")
> [@Der Trihs](#): > > Does anyone else wonder why men as misogynistic as fundamentalist Muslims would _want_ 72 female anything ? If I treated women like they do, I’d be terrified to be outnumbered like that. I think they get 72 pretty youths as well. Just to cover all bases. Some say the whole part is a mistranslation, and that it’s really just 72 raisins. Must be a bummer to stand at heavens gate expecing 72 pretty virgins, and get a small package of raisins. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/75 "2006-06-08T19:16:11Z")
No man is an island blah blah blah etc. My only feeling is mourning- mourning at the whole sick situation. How sad that somebody’s little boy would end up dead with his face plastered on CNN with people cheering. And by this, I mean all of the beloved sons and daughters that have been killed in this conflict. So many wasted lives spent devoted to hate and killing because we live on a sick planet. Such a shame that we all couldn’t have used all this human energy on something that makes the world a better place. Here is hoping, dreaming, and yearning for peace- that great human project that still eludes us. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/76 "2006-06-08T19:21:35Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Please allow for my hatred. Woah. Wait a second here. I don’t know how to ask this with delicacy: D id you just say that a terrorist murder video of one of your own children is available on the internet? :eek: :eek: If this is the case and I read that correctly, then please, without further ado begin dancing on the grave of this scumbag and let no one tell you to stop. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/77 "2006-06-08T19:29:39Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > With a few mouse clicks, I can see my son’s head ‘sawed’ from his shoulders. Only the flooding of his throat with his own blood silences his awful screams. You too can see my son beheaded, for it is available on the very internet you’re using now. There, for everyone to see, like an advertisement. The brutal\* slaying of my son. The imposition of maximum suffering. And, hey, you know, that video and his screams will be the last living record of my son that I will ever know. > > Please allow for my hatred. > > \*There isn’t quite any word which could be used to accurately portray the viciousness of that deed. Holy Cow, Mince, I am so sorry for you. I cannot imagine what you went through and what you continue to go through. I think even the most pacifistic person on this board would at least understand why you would rejoice at Al Zaqawi death. Personally, I would probably cycle between rage and depression. I am really sorry for what you have had to endure. Jim ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/78 "2006-06-08T19:30:57Z")
> [@even sven](#): > > Here is hoping, dreaming, and yearning for peace- that great human project that still eludes us. Sadly, it always will. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/79 "2006-06-08T19:42:45Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Al Zaqawi gets his 72 virgins! And every one of them has a big sandpaper-coated strap-on. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/80 "2006-06-08T19:42:51Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > I think they get 72 pretty youths as well. Just to cover all bases. \< snicker \> Now I have an image of a martyr opening the door to his promised reward, and finding a 144 person orgy. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874.md?page=5)