# Al Zaqawi gets his 72 virgins! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2006, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874 "2006-06-08T11:54:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/81 "2006-06-08T19:52:35Z")
Oh my goodness **Mince**! Allow me to send you my deepest sympathy, and let you know that some of us out there share your rage, even if we cannot come close to understanding the pain. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/82 "2006-06-08T19:54:03Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > I think it’s might dissuading to know that by assuming leadership you’ll be mercilessly hunted by enemies who can strike unseen from 30,000 feet And that any of your “friends” might be the one who tells us exactly where to drop a 500-pound air mail delivery for you… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/83 "2006-06-08T19:58:21Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > I feel zero happiness about the death of Zaqawi. Finding Zarqawi is like finding a black widow spider in your house. The thing to do is kill it. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/84 "2006-06-08T20:01:24Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > But this is Paradise, so the virgins would be docile and yielding and submissive. :rolleyes: And, since they’re **virgins** , they don’t know that you are to sexual performance what Ann Coulter is to tact. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/85 "2006-06-08T20:06:15Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [I can now say](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374782) what I’ve felt since November of 2002: some troll must’ve left its **Trunk** behind. Well, i’m actually quite happy that they’ve removed the prohibition on calling people trolls, but i think that if people start using the term the way that you’re using it here, then they will be deomnstrating a complete misunderstanding of what trolling actually is. Whether you agree with **Trunk** on this issue (or on any other), it seems to me that he’s been around here long enough, and has been a serious enough contributor to these boards, that simple disagreement with him needn’t result in a trolling accusation. Even in this thread, he’s made an effort to defend his position honestly and reasonably; you might not agree with him about it, and you’re welcome to criticise his conclusions (as plenty have done), but calling him a troll just seems stupid. I think that, now that we have that word at our disposal, we should try to reserve it for people who actually merit the charge. ---
**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/86 "2006-06-08T20:10:42Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > Personally, I think that this > > > [@uglybeech](#): > > > > This is the first time I’ve said this about anyone: here’s hoping he suffered. > > is way more trollish than anything I’ve posted. Are you on crack? And I fixed your coding. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/87 "2006-06-08T20:29:38Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Whether you agree with **Trunk** on this issue (or on any other), it seems to me that he’s been around here long enough, and has been a serious enough contributor to these boards, that simple disagreement with him needn’t result in a trolling accusation. Even in this thread, he’s made an effort to defend his position honestly and reasonably; you might not agree with him about it, and you’re welcome to criticise his conclusions (as plenty have done), but calling him a troll just seems stupid. **Trunk** has a history of threadshitting [and spouting garbage](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322843&highlight=trunk). Pretty troll-like if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/88 "2006-06-08T20:33:59Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > Woah. Wait a second here. I don’t know how to ask this with delicacy: > D > id you just say that a terrorist murder video of one of your own children is available on the internet? :eek: :eek: > > If this is the case and I read that correctly, then please, without further ado begin dancing on the grave of this scumbag and let no one tell you to stop. It was a metaphor, God damnit! I know you recognize that, and your post is half in jest. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/89 "2006-06-08T20:35:38Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > It was a metaphor, God damnit! I know you recognize that, and your post is half in jest. A metaphor? For what? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/90 "2006-06-08T20:38:22Z")
And let’s not forget [this trainwreck](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=360174&highlight=trunk), followed by [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7153299&highlight=kids#post7153299) a couple of weeks later. Will the real **Trunk** please stand up? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/91 "2006-06-08T20:41:13Z")
> [@PoorYorick](#): > > Their heads were sawed off with a machete. Those clowns are that incompetent, or they did it that way for jollies? ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/92 "2006-06-08T20:42:42Z")
O.K. Upon further consideration of the above posts, it does seem that people genuinely mistook my post as fact. It is not. I apologize for my tart response and say, in a kinder manner, that it was merely a metaphor. I was conveying that it was ok, sometimes, to feel anger to point of deathwishing and death celebration. I do not even have a son. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/93 "2006-06-08T20:54:55Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > O.K. Upon further consideration of the above posts, it does seem that people genuinely mistook my post as fact. It is not. I apologize for my tart response and say, in a kinder manner, that it was merely a metaphor. I was conveying that it was ok, sometimes, to feel anger to point of deathwishing and death celebration. I do not even have a son. [You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:metaphor&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title) ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/94 "2006-06-08T20:58:35Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > [You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:metaphor&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title) Yeah, you’re right. I know the meaning of the word. I just misused it. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/95 "2006-06-08T21:27:45Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > **Trunk** has a history of threadshitting [and spouting garbage](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322843&highlight=trunk). Pretty troll-like if you ask me. Yawn. One can think that a person is spouting shit, without thinking that they’re a troll. You still apparently don’t really understand what the word means. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/96 "2006-06-08T21:38:08Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > [You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:metaphor&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title) [post 55](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7469179&postcount=55) To clarify: I made not a **metaphor** , but a **vicarious sentiment**. I was speaking from the perspective of the family members. ---
**Author:** ![YaWanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@YaWanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YaWanna)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/97 "2006-06-08T21:54:43Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > O.K. Upon further consideration of the above posts, it does seem that people genuinely mistook my post as fact. It is not. I apologize for my tart response and say, in a kinder manner, that it was merely a metaphor. I was conveying that it was ok, sometimes, to feel anger to point of deathwishing and death celebration. I do not even have a son. Wow. I’m trying to think of the right word (and it isn’t metaphor, btw) for post #55. Or for the act of doing such a thing. Just…wow. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/98 "2006-06-08T22:01:31Z")
Sick Fuck here! Zarqawi is dead, I only wish I believed he was rotting in hell, but I take some comfort in the thought that his death took awhile and was extremely painful. He deserved every bit of horror he experienced, and more. The world is well rid of him. Now if only we can “get” that other focus of evil in Iraq – Donald Rumsfeld!\* \*Note: did not specifically wish death on the old scumbag. A legal process would do I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/99 "2006-06-08T22:11:00Z")
OK, that was a nice experiment. Now can we reinstate the rule? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874/100 "2006-06-08T22:21:04Z")
> [@YaWanna](#): > > Wow. I’m trying to think of the right word (and it isn’t metaphor, btw) for post #55. Or for the act of doing such a thing. Just…wow. :dubious: Just FWIW, I didn’t read **Mince’s** post at all to be providing a first-person account at all when I first read it, although going back later when others brought it up, I could see it being read that way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/al-zaqawi-gets-his-72-virgins/359874.md?page=6)