# Alabama Dept. of Homeland Security says SDMB is hotbed of potential terrorists

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**Created:** [May 29, 2007, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891 "2007-05-29T11:23:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/1 "2007-05-29T11:23:53Z")

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Well, they didn’t single out the SDMB specifically. But they did put out a website listing groups that were likely spawning grounds for terrorists, groups which included gays, anti-war organizations, environmentalists, animal rights advocates and abortion opponents.

The website has been taken down. Here’s a link to the story:

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070528/ap\_on\_hi\_te/web\_site\_terror;\_ylt=AuYaBfWVm0Ax1EoNVtaR27wjtBAF](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070528/ap_on_hi_te/web_site_terror;_ylt=AuYaBfWVm0Ax1EoNVtaR27wjtBAF)

Interestingly, I saw no mention of right wing militias, the only group in America that has actually spawned a “let’s blow things up good” terrorist (Timothy McVeigh).

Overall, the list is so stupid that I can’t believe even Alabamians were that dumb. (And that’s saying something.) Alabama, did Texas put you up to this?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/2 "2007-05-29T11:27:24Z")

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Just curious, how many states even _have_ a Department of Homeland Security? And what exactly gives the State of Alabama the right to shut down websites?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/3 "2007-05-29T11:34:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
Well, they didn’t single out the SDMB specifically. But they did put out a website listing groups that were likely spawning grounds for terrorists, groups which included gays, anti-war organizations, environmentalists, animal rights advocates and abortion opponents.  
Interestingly, I saw no mention of right wing militias, the only group in America that has actually spawned a “let’s blow things up good” terrorist (Timothy McVeigh).  
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Well, some of the anti-abortionists have as well, they just don’t use a much explosive at a time.

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**Author:** ![milquetoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@milquetoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milquetoast)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/4 "2007-05-29T12:35:10Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
And what exactly gives the State of Alabama the right to shut down websites?  
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The website that was shut down belonged to the Alabama Department of Homeland Security. It was theirs to shut down.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/5 "2007-05-29T12:38:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
… Alabama, did Texas put you up to this?  
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Alabamaniacs are crackers, Texans are peckerwoods. Very different.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/6 "2007-05-29T12:40:45Z")

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[QUOTE=milquetoast]  
The website that was shut down belonged to the Alabama Department of Homeland Security. It was theirs to shut down.  
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My mistake. It’s early on the day after a 3 day weekend.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/7 "2007-05-29T12:40:50Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
Just curious, how many states even _have_ a Department of Homeland Security?  
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[All of them](http://www.dhs.gov/xgovt/editorial_0291.shtm).

Your pre-911 thinking is a danger to America.

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**Author:** ![milquetoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@milquetoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milquetoast)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/8 "2007-05-29T12:42:42Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
My mistake. It’s early on the day after a 3 day weekend.  
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I hear ya!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/9 "2007-05-29T12:42:53Z")

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Alabama needs its own Department of Homeland Security because they know if we ever decide to give up part of the country to the enemy, they’re going to be high on the list of expendable states.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/10 "2007-05-29T12:46:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
[All of them](http://www.dhs.gov/xgovt/editorial_0291.shtm).

Your pre-911 thinking is a danger to America.  
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I don’t know if I buy “all of them”. They all have HS contacts, but it doesn’t appear that they all have a state department called DHS.

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**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/11 "2007-05-29T13:12:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]

Interestingly, I saw no mention of right wing militias, the only group in America that has actually spawned a “let’s blow things up good” terrorist (Timothy McVeigh).

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Especially since the only two “terrorist incidents” in Alabama in recent years were both caused by people that are the political opposites of the ones from that website.

Those being Eric Rudolph’s bombing of a Birmingham abortion clinic, and the busting a month or two ago of a right wing militia that had been stashing hardcore military equipment (like missile launchers and machine guns) in preparation for attacks on hispanics.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/12 "2007-05-29T13:13:55Z")

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Imagine this: If GWBush were to retire to Alabama instead of Texas, the average IQ in each state would increase.

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**Author:** ![Capatalist\_Lion\_Tamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71c47a/32.png) [@Capatalist\_Lion\_Tamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capatalist_Lion_Tamer)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/13 "2007-05-29T13:33:43Z")

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[QUOTE=kidchameleon]  
Well, some of the anti-abortionists have as well, they just don’t use a much explosive at a time.  
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ALF has been know to blow up something now and again.

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**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/14 "2007-05-29T13:45:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Capatalist Lion Tamer]  
ALF has been know to blow up something now and again.  
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I blame Willie.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/15 "2007-05-29T13:51:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Kokopilau]  
Especially since the only two “terrorist incidents” in Alabama in recent years were both caused by people that are the political opposites of the ones from that website.  
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Read the OP’s list again.

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/16 "2007-05-29T13:52:29Z")

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Don’t like our mother-fuckin’ website, don’t read it. Don’t like my mother-fuckin’ State, keep your ass out.

\*At the Bama Breeze  
You can shoot some pool down there  
You can act the fool down there  
You can play it cool down there

At the Bama Breeze  
You’re one of our own down here  
You never drink alone down here  
God, I feel at home down here\*~~Jimmy Buffett

Wanna come drink some beer and shoot some pool, dance some and maybe mess around a little about midnight, that’s cool.

The rest of you pinko-commie weak-ass liberal whiney lilly-livered Bush bashin’ Democrat votin’ motherfuckers can take your fat asses to California or New Jersey or some shitty place like New York.

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**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/17 "2007-05-29T13:59:18Z")

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Makes sense to me. When I read those articles in the university paper, _I_ always get the idea gays want to blow things.

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**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/18 "2007-05-29T14:02:30Z")

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[QUOTE=furt]  
Read the OP’s list again.  
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Whoops. I thought that said abortion supporters. Weird for them to be bunched with the rest of the groups in that list. “One of these things is not like the others” indeed.

Still, the recent bust of the milita group counts. Remarkably, none of the press called them “terrorists”, despite the fact that they were more heavily armed than the guys they got who were wanting to attack Fort Dix.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/19 "2007-05-29T14:35:16Z")

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That’s a fairly frightening story, **Evil Captor**. A bunch of non-“traditional” groups singled out for negative attention by a state department - anyone else reminded of Senator McCarthy, communist witchhunts and blackballing?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alabama-dept-of-homeland-security-says-sdmb-is-hotbed-of-potential-terrorists/405891/20 "2007-05-29T14:35:38Z")

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> [@John Carter of Mars](#):
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> Don’t like our mother-fuckin’ website, don’t read it.

**John** , darlin’, that’s a pretty feeble attempt to evade the charge of spreading ignorance. Y’all were caught with the ignorance red-handed, y’all take the beating for it. Then we can be friends again (and we still like your barbecue).

(And btw, 'Bamians have no business calling anybody else’s asses fat. You folks are one of the [nation’s leaders in obesity](http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/obesity_US.shtml), along with Texas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Indiana and Michigan. The average blue-state ass is skinny compared to yours.)

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