An incident of someone dying during weight loss cryotherapy in a high concentration of nitrogen.
Russia has had a moratorium on capital punishment since 1996.
I’d rather spend the rest of my natural life in a cell than be dead.
I’d take the death penalty. Different strokes and all that.
Letting them fall out of windows seems to have taken up the slack.
He did:
https://thehill.com/homenews/4430668-alabama-inmate-becomes-first-us-executed-with-nitrogen-gas/
Hamm said that Smith held his breath initially and that the movements were involuntary and were expected side effects of death by nitrogen gas based on their research. He also claimed he didn’t notice Smith remaining conscious.
“Nothing was out of the ordinary of what we were expecting,” Hamm said in response to the claims.
I wish people would stop saying this. Smith did not request this. His attorneys merely said it would be better than the botched attempt at executing him.
Although the Alabama protocol for execution by nitrogen isn’t fully known, I found this item in CNN to be of interest:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/us/nitrogen-gas-execution/index.html
Note that Dr. Zivot had nothing to do with the execution. He was an expert consulted by CNN.
Just the quoted portions suggest that article needed another round of edits. Like they took an article written before the execution about what would/might happen, and then (too quickly) adapted it to be reporting on what actually happened.
I think this is semantics. He didn’t say, “I would like to be asphyxiated with Nitrogen please”. He said, “If you are going to execute me, I would prefer Nitrogen over lethal injection.”
Yet another way to say there’s no way to do a humane execution. 15 minutes of inhaling nitrogen has to cause some nasty brain damage before you die. It sure makes me want to vote only for the opposers EVER.
It didn’t say he breathed the nitrogen for fifteen minutes, it said the nitrogen flowed for fifteen minutes. Apparently that was the planned duration, and only after that time had elapsed did the doctor examine the body and say he was dead. How soon he stopped breathing we don’t know.
Yes that’s true what you wrote. Thank you for clarifying that.
Of course it’s not humane. That’s kind of the point. Some people don’t deserve humanity.
It seems like they could take away the humanity without killing the person. If I were in prison only being separated from my friends and family would feel like death.
What a coincidence.
That seems to be the same opinion he held.
Punishment is only justified if it can be shown to be a deterrent. In many cases of extreme criminality it absolutely is not, either for other potential offenders or in terms of rehabilitation for the offender in question. So in the most extreme cases the only way to protect society is by removing such an offender from it. The remaining question is how to do it.
One argument for the death penalty versus life with no possibility of parole is the cost to the taxpayer of the latter. From a moral standpoint this isn’t an argument that I buy for one second, but it’s one that is frequently heard. The problem is that if we stoop to officially sanctioned killings we demean ourselves as a society. Aside from the immediate moral issues, the demeaning of life can have cascading effects elsewhere. At the very least, if we don’t have the wisdom to restore life from death, we shouldn’t be entitled to presume the authority to go the other way. A bunch of documents with a lot of legal words written on them saying otherwise is just institutionalized barbarism.
I know this is not a ‘death penalty’ thread, but fuck that noise. It’s the Pit, and I can post whatever the fuck I want.
America is pretty much the last western nation to abolish the death penalty. The death penalty is obscene and it doesn’t work. It doesn’t deter others, and once someone is incarcerated, they are never going to get out to repeat their crimes.
This bloke who died today. He was ‘contract’ killer for the measly sum of $1000. Seriously? Some poor schmuck down on their luck looking to get a bit of a reprieve from their poverty for a few weeks? And then 35 years later, you kill him. Seriously?
Yeah he murdered someone. It happens. Lock them up for the term of their natural life. Don’t be the barbarians who employ the state to kill on your behalf. Fuck that.
I like the ‘what a coincidence.’ I think about how I’m different from a murderer because I think for example that the man who abused my childhood friend probably has value to someone in his life. It’s crazy that I came to that over my life. A murderer wouldn’t bother to have such a thought ever.
I liked how you mentioned a sicial wisdom to make life from death. I could spend more’n a lifetime figuring out how.