Many inmates in the prison system were IV drug users. I’m repeating a fact, not meaning to be offensive.
Cite showing an estimate of 65% of inmates had substance abuse disorder:
I get that a lot of them are.
That doesn’t make it less offensive to me.
Killing people because you couldn’t take proper care of them must be the dumbest, most costly outcome possible.
That last sentence is generally true of capitalism. The main ways that surplus population is dealt with are incarceration and death, either by neglect or judicial murder.
Thing is, murderers can plea-bargain down from first to second-degree murder, or even, depending on the facts of the case and the strength or lack thereof of the prosecution’s case, get the charges reduced to some degree of manslaughter, get less than life sentences, accumulate good time, and be paroled before they’re too old to kill again.
This varies depending on state law, but some people who kill can get out of prison after a shockingly short time.
“ > But what then is capital punishment but the most premeditated of murders, to which no criminal’s deed, however calculated it may be, can be compared? For there to be equivalence, the death penalty would have to punish a criminal who had warned his victim of the date at which he would inflict a horrible death on him and who, from that moment onward, had confined him at his mercy for months. Such a monster is not encountered in private life.”
Albert Camus
but those are by definition not the who are placed on death row, so I’m not sure how this is relevant, unless your argument is that second degree murder and manslaughter should invoke the death penalty.
Suicide rates are higher in prison than in the general populous. Cite
It would also be cheaper and free up the court docket. It’s a win/win for all concerned.
Everybody has to sleep sometime, right?
After a person’s death warrant is signed, tell them that the next time they go to sleep, it will be their last. Then give them a comfortable room with soft, soothing music and lighting, and a very cushy bed and couch to enjoy.
Provide them Sleepytime tea, cookies baked by the warden, a teddy bear, and silky pajamas.
Once they finally doze off, observers (who been waiting in an accompanying room behind a two way mirror), will enter the room and administer the fatal dosage of whatever drug is necessary to end their life.
That’s my new proposal for a death penalty method.
I think his point is criminals can plead down to avoid the DP.
The only problem is if someone innocent decides to fight but is convicted nonetheless.
I’m pretty sure that would wake the person back up.
I’m also pretty sure their last 48-72 hours or so awake would be pretty damn horrible. Like being one of the teens in a Nightmare on Elm Street film.
There is no way of executing someone that can overcome the psychological torment of an unwilling subject. There are, whoever, many ways to prolong it. Which, ironically, I believe many of the supposedly “gentle” methods of execution proposed here are particularly liable to do.
You have correctly sussed out her point.
No harm; no foul; I agree the username is misleading on that point. ETF were orange tiger boys residing with me when I chose the name.
I think it’s both- not just anyone can pronounce someone dead, for example. In most states, it has to be done by a duly licensed medical professional. So there’s a sort of ethical gray area for most doctors/nurses there, as well as whatever professional censure they might get.
So why can’t the State amend the laws to allow a duly appointed State official to pronounce executed prisoners dead in that very specific situation? That way, licensing boards and professional ethics are circumvented.
I know it’s kind of sketchy, but it’s no less sketchy than just finding ethically flexible doctors to do it for you.
Mind blown!
This is just awful. I’m disgusted. Yes, I know he was a murderer and didn’t deserve any compassion, but society should give it anyway while keeping him locked up to protect the public. And I don’t think the thrashing was “normal,” whatever that means.
It means that if there had been no outside witnesses, and Smith had screamed in terror while vomiting, prison officials would have reported that he died peacefully in his sleep.
And perhaps supplemental O2 could be piped into the room to protect against suffocation? But really, to me it’s pretty simple. If you’re going execute someone with pure nitrogen, it should only be done using a dedicated, air-tight chamber much like some prisons’ gas chambers.
When having nitrous oxide administered at the dentist I know the set-up has a “scavenger” system that pulls the exhaled gases out of the mask. I’d think a similar system could be used for nitrogen execution but again, IMO the solution is to perform the execution in an isolated gas chamber.
I am completely opposed to the death penalty. But I can’t morally square making executions more gruesome and torturous as a means toward eliminating the DP.
That’s pretty nutty, evil shit.
Wouldn’t that actually be a more prolonged, torturous method than a mask? However small the chamber, it would be full of breathable atmosphere while the prisoner is put in there and no doubt strapped into a chair. Then how would it go? How long would it take to charge the chamber with enough nitrogen to do the job, while the executee struggles and suffers? Oh, evacuate the normal atmosphere and replace it with the nitrogen? Meaning the prisoner would still suffer gradually during the process; or, hey! Pull a vacuum and then add the nitrogen so… Ah, yes, that’s got its own drawbacks.
Yep. I fully confess that I’m ambivalent about capital punishment. To wit: There are people who should not be allowed to live. BUT… Having a State that kills its citizens is disturbing. I have compassion for people staring at their fate, because they are still human beings. I must come out against capital punishment, even if I think someone should be dead. If I’m against it, then I’m against it. No exceptions.