# Alarm Clock Tuned to Right-Wing Radio Joy! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 1, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288 "2010-09-01T17:47:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AmericanMaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AmericanMaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmericanMaid)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/1 "2010-09-01T17:47:55Z")
I woke up to this Talking Head discussing how ridiculous that Obama didn’t say we won the war in Iraq last night during his speech. Also, that Obama’s speech was hypocritical since he ran on the platform that the war was a mistake. Granted, I was half asleep but I could and can not make heads or tails to this argument! How is saying a war is a mistake hypocritical when you are announcing hitting a major deadline for pulling out troops? Can someone explain this to me slowly? It has been bugging me all day. Also, did we win the war? Maybe Obama didn’t say it, because we didn’t? Granted I live in my Leftie Liberal bubble out here in MA but are there people out there who think we won? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/2 "2010-09-01T17:49:55Z")
> [@AmericanMaid](#): > > Also, that Obama’s speech was hypocritical since he ran on the platform that the war was a mistake. Man, first he’s against the war, then he gets us out of it! Jeez, make up your mind, flip-flopper! ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/3 "2010-09-01T17:51:34Z")
I don’t think we were ever there to ‘win,’ but most of Bush’s stated objectives were met, one way or another. ~ No weps of mass destruction (not that there ever were any) ~ Saddam Hussein out of power ~ More-or-less functional government in place (such as it is) I _guess_ that could be called a win. Maybe. But political radio isn’t there to make sense - Just to cater to the masses whom pay their bills. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/4 "2010-09-01T17:53:19Z")
Right, then, let’s call it a draw. Do-over? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/5 "2010-09-01T18:15:08Z")
> [@Tranquilis](#): > > I don’t think we were ever there to ‘win,’ but most of Bush’s stated objectives were met, one way or another. > > ~ No weps of mass destruction (not that there ever were any) > ~ Saddam Hussein out of power > ~ More-or-less functional government in place (such as it is) That third one wasn’t really an “objective”, it was more of an “afterthought”, wasn’t it? As to the OP: I think I’d be more concerned about who’s been messing with your clock radio! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/6 "2010-09-01T18:19:00Z")
Well, we haven’t had another 9/11, so clearly it was a victory. ---
**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/7 "2010-09-01T18:32:47Z")
> [@AmericanMaid](#): > > Also, did we win the war? Maybe Obama didn’t say it, because we didn’t? Granted I live in my Leftie Liberal bubble out here in MA but are there people out there who think we won? Of course we won the war. The war ended when Saddam’s government capitulated. After that, it was an occupation, which turned into a tragic mess. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/8 "2010-09-01T19:01:17Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > > [@Tranquilis](#): > > > > I don’t think we were ever there to ‘win,’ but most of Bush’s stated objectives were met, one way or another. > > > > ~ No weps of mass destruction (not that there ever were any) > > ~ Saddam Hussein out of power > > ~ More-or-less functional government in place (such as it is) > > That third one wasn’t really an “objective”, it was more of an “afterthought”, wasn’t it? More of a corollary to the second item, I guess. > [@](#): > > As to the OP: I think I’d be more concerned about who’s been messing with your clock radio! Word. ---
**Author:** ![AmericanMaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AmericanMaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmericanMaid)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/9 "2010-09-01T19:35:19Z")
[quote=“Shoeless, post:5, topic:552288”] > [@Tranquilis](#): > > As to the OP: I think I’d be more concerned about who’s been messing with your clock radio! It was either my cat or I hit the tuner when I flailed for the snooze button. Well, you have to admit waking up to a discussion that makes no sense and you disagree with is a pretty good way to get you out of bed. At least I don’t have a song like, “I Got You Babe” in my head all day! I know for some people that Obama can do no right but being against a war doesn’t bar you from appreciating soldiers’ sacrifices… And he is against just the Iraq War so schlepping our soldiers over to Afghanistan is very on messge. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/10 "2010-09-01T21:03:00Z")
> [@AmericanMaid](#): > > Granted, I was half asleep but I could and can not make heads or tails to this argument! Argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition. It’s an intellectual process, talk radio is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other party says. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/11 "2010-09-02T00:23:05Z")
What a coincidence-so did mine! Tho it was actually one of those right-wing fire & brimstone religious stations (I always use the beeper and not the radio on my alarm clock). ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarm-clock-tuned-to-right-wing-radio-joy/552288/12 "2010-09-02T20:40:44Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition. It’s an intellectual process, talk radio is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other party says. No it isn’t.